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Announcing Wardens of the West, an expansion for Battles of Westeros
Battles of Westeros | Published 12 May 2010

All across Westeros, the Great Houses prepare for war. The Starks to the north have taken up arms and declared a new King in the North. Meanwhile, various contenders and usurpers stake their claim for the Iron Throne, vying for control of the Seven Kingdoms. It is a time for armies to be gathered. And as the wealth of Casterly Rock buys loyalty with gold, the Lannister forces continue to swell...

This summer, Fantasy Flight Games is excited to expand your Lannister forces for Battles of Westeros with Wardens of the West! The coffers of Casterly Rock afford better armor and superior weaponry for its loyal troops. Now is your chance to bolster your Lannister ranks!

Wardens of the West is a Lannister reinforcement set that introduces three new Lannister commanders - Tyrion Lannister, Sandor Clegane, and Daven Lannister - each with their own special abilities and leadership cards. Just like the commanders in the core set, these new commanders have specific strengths (and weaknesses). For example, Sandor “the Hound” Clegane uses the new fearsome keyword, refusing to let his enemies disengage and forcing them to retreat two hexes for each morale result rolled in combat.

In addition to commanders, Wardens of the West also introduces three all-new unit types of Lannister affiliation. The House Brax pikemen specialize in formations, while the Clegane crossbowmen utilize the new aimed shot keyword. The Westerlands militia are easy to break and lack formal military training, but they make up for it in their vast numbers.

Wardens of the West adds more than 30 new plastic miniatures and over 30 new cards. It also includes a Rules and Battle Plans book as well as more terrain overlays, banners, and tokens. Additionally, Wardens of the West also introduces new game mechanics, such as the new Gambit cards, formations, and the deadly catapults!

Keep watching for more details, and be ready this summer when House Lannister's forces become even deadlier.

Set in the rich and vibrant world of George R.R. Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire series, Battles of Westeros is a board game of tactical battlefield combat for two players. With scenarios that include beloved characters and settings, players can recreate the most significant battles from The War of the Five Kings.

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flim_flam
Published: 5/13/2010 7:40:18 PM
#27

Mr. Petersen,

I was very interested in the Battles of Westeros before I saw this announcemnet.  Its not that I didn't expect expansions, but its the timing of this annoucment that rubs me the wrong way.  Why release an expansion so close to the release of the core game?  It makes me think that you chose to hold back material that could have been in the core game solely so you could release it as an expansion.  I'm all for "game systems", but I don't want or need a boardgame version of a CCG.  I will have to re-evaluate my desire to jump into this system if this is how you plan to release it.

Dystopian
Published: 5/13/2010 4:18:14 PM
#26

To Mr. Petersen:

Would you care to comment on how many expansions (roughly, of course) do you plan on releasing per year?

 

GrumpyBatman
Published: 5/13/2010 1:25:51 PM
#25

Well said! I personally look forward to each every BoW expansion. I think having a lot of variety to choose from when participating in a wargame is better than having the same old pieces each and every scenario. My only request: get the core game out sooner! :)

The Spaniard
Published: 5/13/2010 10:29:58 AM
FFG Staff
#24

 All,

The games hobby marketplace calls for FFG to solicit releases that are 3-4 months out. Thus, we have a choice to either announce it first here, or have everyone find out (with less info) on some third party website distributing our solicitation info.

BattleLore is FFG's tactical medieval combat brand, and as with the original Battlelore game, will have expansions on an ongoing basis. Announcing an expansion is not a sign of an incomplete core game (BoW is an amazing stand-alone game), it is a testament for how awesome we think the core game is. 

The world of Westeros is rife with interesting characters, houses, and thrilling events, infinitely exceeding what we could have placed in a core set. We look forward to expanding the "Battles of Westeros" options plentyfully in over the next few years for players seeking an engaging living experience in their games, in addition to an amazing stand-alone core set.

One of the most frequent complaints leveled against FFG is in our slower-than-the-player-hopes-for efforts to bring supporting material to our "toolbox" games (such as Tide of Iron, BattleLore, Descent: Journey's in the Dark, LCG's, etc). We're working hard to address these issues. Our philosophy is to have a commitment to every game line as if it was our only game line. 

Hopefully this helps your understanding of this issue. I can assure you that once we've released BoW, that many, many players will be thrilled that we have new options for them planned for them quickly. 

Christian Petersen
CEO
Fantasy Flight Games

VendettaUF
Published: 5/13/2010 8:51:27 AM
#23

Raventroll:

I think it more likely that they had many good ideas for Lannisters, but had enough for their initial set so some things got cut. I think, by announcing this expansion, FF is showing their dedication to supporting and adding to this game system. I fully expect to see another House Stark box as well. More == good imho. Can allways not buy what you don't want. I really don't understand the angst. There are several reviews out on the net from FFG events you can read if you are not familiar with the rules and want to gauge your interest. Otherwise, stop the chicken little.

tech7
Published: 5/13/2010 7:57:28 AM
#22

At least nobody can say that FFG did not warn its customers about this being a cash cow ;) 

Dystopian
Published: 5/13/2010 6:00:25 AM
#21

I knew this was going to be a cash cow (who didn't?), but was ready to take the plunge anyhow.

And now they announce an expansion for one of the core houses, with a second one to follow quite possibly for the other house. And I wanted Baratheon...

The game is expected at the start of July (according to sellers) and this expansion "this summer". Isn't that a little to soon?

Also, this expansion really feels like a "must". There are 3 new characters (5 in the core set) and 3 new special units (1(!) in the core set). I can't imagine not buying this...

I am interested as hell, but this starts to feel like a whole herd of cash cows. I may have to reconsider getting aboard that train, especially if it's going to be running that fast...

 

 

Rashley
Published: 5/13/2010 5:19:29 AM
#20

Having read all the comments so far, I will now add my two pence worth.  We all seem to want to get into this game as soon as possible, and know that FFG will follow up with plenty of extras.  The core set does seem to be a little limited for its price, and, in my opinion, FFG has confirmed this by announcing this first addition as Lannister only!  That implies Stark only next.  That looks like a lot of money before we see the vast variety of factions read in the books.  A bit naughty that FFG, so a slap on the wrist there.  Of course, we don't have to buy any of the sets.  I think FFG have made a boo boo here in dangling this in front of us to flesh out what we should get first, before announcing future factions.

Cheers

Pilot17
Published: 5/13/2010 5:01:36 AM
#19

sr_ocho is right, it does look like they are just releasing more plastic pieces to draw people into buying it. although the expansion does say there are more rules and mechanics in addition to minis but why couldnt they have been in the original game. hopefully this is not the case but we wont know until the game is out. maybe there was simply too much stuff to get into the core set. either way im sure i will still get at least the core set.

im really not worried about expansions yet. i love tide of iron and still havnt gotten the first expansion for it simply because i dont have the time to play it enough. i think ill try to play all the original scenarios before i move on :D so im definitly getting those before i but any for BoW.

sr_ocho
Published: 5/13/2010 4:42:15 AM
#18

Well, I was really interested in this game since I saw it, although some things confused me from the very begining (for example, the label  "a battlelore game"). Then, I saw that in the box were printed those terrible words (core set) and I started to tremble. Now, before we can even get the game, we see that there is an expansion... It's really annoying. I mean, I really apreciate when games I love have a great support, with aditional stuff I can enjoy. However, this seems to me like: 'ok, let's release lots of little boxes with a few minis more so that players will be ruined'.

I understand, this is a business, FFG has to benefit, but come on, I won't buy a game if I think there's a trick before it's out.

Gualdo
Published: 5/13/2010 4:40:47 AM
#17

 I'm always excited about spoilers. Sinceraly I was hoping new expansions were related to other houses... but I'm sure the future of this game will be great! Waiting rules book ;-)

Pilot17
Published: 5/13/2010 4:17:07 AM
#16

I agree with everyone that advertising an expansion before the game is out is quite odd even when it is implied from the box cover. but i dont get how this would dissuade people from buying it or make them assume its a bad game. to me it shows that FFG has a lot of confidence in the game, which from what i can tell looks quite a bit like tide of iron in fantasy/medieval times (which sounds great to me). TOI has been having a lot of success and if my guess is right then they should have plenty of confidence in it.

i for one think the game looks great so far. but who cares if there is an expansion, it doesnt mean you have to buy it. same with being a cash cow. its only a cash cow if it does well and people keep buying it; which means FFG did their job and made a good game. after all they are trying to make money. anyway im hoping that this announcement of an expansion so early means that the game is nearing its release date.

i would also like to see more info on this game i.e. rules :D

PS i think the BattleLore part is more like a citation giving credit to its creator since they did get ideas for the game mechanics from it. but i could be wrong

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