Thanks, I like this one!

Now, some of my players might still want to use their career card for the artwork on it - would you still have a link to the version that assumed a career card on the table, the one you posted a few days ago?

cheers,

Did you remove the previous, smaller version? Any chance you could still have that up) honestly preferred that in many ways.

My preferred version would be the old one, but with the Insanity/Critical/Mutation/Dieases box moved into the field currently occupied by the basic actions overview. Honestly, I don't consider the basic actions to be important enough to have on the career sheet. The smaller the career sheet is, the better. And the action cards take up a lot of space that can just be printed on a sepearate sheet if you don't use the cards.

This way, you have all relevant information, that isn't part of the advancement mechanics, on one sheet.

This is awesome, and just in time for me. Thanks, Gitzman.

Did you purposefully leave out space for Race, Character Rank and Previous Careers? I can see why you might make that decision, so I'm mostly just curious.

Contrary to Ralzar's point, I'd rather have the action card info available on the sheet and insanity, mutation, etc. on cards on the table.

Two questions/suggestions:

Can you put something on the Talent slots to indicate what kind belongs there? Perhaps a set of check boxes would fit. And personally, I don't feel the need for the career card to have a space. You always have access to your career cards, just like your wounds and mutations and diseases are always on. But the talents you have choose specific ones. Basically, cards that don't need to be differentiated don't need to be "locked" to the sheet in my mind.

And on a related note, with the talents going down the side like that, it makes it harder to fold the sheet and still use it at higher levels. Keeping the amount of space down at the table is a key concern, I think. Of course, replacing the career slot with a third talent will miitgate the need for that for a while.

But still, this is fantastic. I've been filling out character sheets to put up on my Obsidian Portal wiki, but I'd love to switch over to these.Thanks for all the work!

Good feedback.  It is still obviously a work in progress and im looking forward to making tweaks and adjustments.

For those of you who just want page one (the original), you just cut the page in half and use the top portion just like before.  For those who want more, you can use the whole thing.

The talent cards on the side are still a concern for me, i am not 100% satisfied with hwo they are layed out. I really do want to keep the action cards on the front of the sheet, because the purpose of the sheet im designing is to reduce the clutter and cards that everyone needs to have access to, while reducing table space used by each player.

As you can see we have quite a bit of extra space on the back side still, any requests for other information that is required?  Im not really looking for unecessary content but really just looking to see if i am missing anything important.

I did not include race because i figure we all know who we are and what we are, but if you think its needed i can add it (also that would be a front page item and we have no space there).

Gitzman

Nope, I don't think you need race, I was just checking that it was a choice and not an ommission.

I really like having the series of boxes for characteristcs, but if you used a more traditional fill in method that would give you a bunch of room to regigger thing. I don't know if it's worth it, because I do like the row of boxes, but you do have the real estate to do it:

But, you know, nicer.

Lol thanks for the help.

I Just posted another significant update. 

PAGE ONE HAS AN UPDATED IMAGE

•  I have split it into two pages (2 8.5in x 5.5in). 
• I have made room for all the Career cards and Talent cards on the FRONT SIDE
• Made a few areas a lot easier to read.
• Added a few things here and there to facilitate requests from the boards.

I'm pretty happy with this layout so far.

Gitzman

Excellent, this is the best of both worlds!

It's looking really good and I'm considering using it. One thing though: Maybe remove the "Talent" text from the talent card slots? I'm thinking it's handier to leave the text box empty so you can write "Tactical" "Reputation" or "Focus" as appropriate.

Awesome! I like it. I really like that you were able to include previous careers. I'm almost hesitant to ask, is there a reason the basic mental skills only have two ranks of boxes?

I *think* it's just how the image shows up here.  IIRC, the real sheet isn't missing those.

You'll notice there are some artifacts and whitespace showing up on the preview image as well.

No, that's how it looks when I opened the file in both Adobe and Photoshop.

Same here. The basic mental skills are missing a row.

Oooops! Lol,

• Yea that 3rd column of boxes for Mental Skills was accidently deleted.  Ill fix that.
• I like the idea of removing the "Talent" text allowing the user to enter "Reputation, Tactic, Focus, etc."

I'll make these updates tonight.
 

Gitzman

I am also going to tweak the layout to allow it to be folded in half along an appropriate seam.  At the moment when folded it goes right accross the skills boxes and is awkward.

Gitzman

I messed around with it in photoshop a bit and came up with these changes:

*The circles for the stances are increased in size, so they can be used instead of a cardboard stance meter.

*The blue box in the upper left corner was made smaller to make more room on the side and Fame/Noble ranks was removed, as I don't really use those.

*The "Talent" text was removed.

*The talen slots were moved to the left hand side so that when Talent Cards are slotted, they are placed horizontally, making them easier to read for the player. In addition, it makes the table space outwards from the player smaller.

*Talent slots made smaller. If this picture is printed in A4 size, the slots will match up to the size of the Talent cards.

*Basic Actions removed and Injuries etc inserted instead. This is just my own preferance, as I allready have the basic actions printed on their own sheet.