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Rogue Trader
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Excel based Character Sheet
by Memetix
Published on 15 May 2010 - 03:18:43
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Reply #721 | Published on 16 September 2012 - 13:25:38

sirdigbychknczr said:

random bug check.  Under talents it doesn't appear to be greying out talents with Fellowship based requirements. 

My Tech Priest has a fellowship of 3, and I can still check talents with a prerequiste of Fel 40!

 

Other stat based prereqs appear to be working fine.

 

EDIT:

 

Also, can we get "Integrated Weapons" as a choice under the Exotic Weapon Prof (choose) Talents?  Thanks!

..Wow. I must.. just.. wow. I know this is a bit off-topic, but how the hell did you manage to get a Fellowship of 3?

"It's never too late to panic."
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Reply #722 | Published on 16 September 2012 - 14:22:09

sirdigbychknczr said:

random bug check.  Under talents it doesn't appear to be greying out talents with Fellowship based requirements. 

My Tech Priest has a fellowship of 3, and I can still check talents with a prerequiste of Fel 40!

 

Other stat based prereqs appear to be working fine.

 

EDIT:

 

Also, can we get "Integrated Weapons" as a choice under the Exotic Weapon Prof (choose) Talents?  Thanks!

I think you'll need to email me a .rtc save file for this one ….. there are some talents that allow you to use other stats (INT) instead of Fel for pre-reqs.

It might be related to that but I really need to see the character build to find this ….. email address is on the instructions sheet.

I'll also get to see how you ended up with Fel 3 

Rogue Trader/Dark Heresy/Deathwatch character sheet

Lord of the Ring LCG: Custom quests OCTGN

Reply #723 | Published on 16 September 2012 - 16:54:23

It is pretty easy for a Tech Priest to get Fellowship into single digits. So many cybernetics and implants reduce the stat, and you can never raise it.

I would say in this case the 'bug' really is just the Int stat being an allowable swap for Tech Priests and certain talents. But I'm sure Memetix will confirm soon enough.

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Reply #724 | Published on 25 September 2012 - 01:48:33

First another little error, then some requests:

The Groxwhip is listed as DMG 1d10+Str  but as far as I can tell it should be 1d10+3+Str.

The the requests:

The hardened bodyglove has an option to include a hood + some stealth gear for 3x the price. This would be best implemented as a separate suit of armour on the shop, which also grants AP to the head.

We have started using the excellent Macharian Handbook, which includes some unofficial variants of "stuff", like the Armoured Bodyglove. It would be nice if you added these, if you were to feel bored some day :)

Oh, did you release a new version with the latest changes? I see v6.3 as latest, but I believe you added the Lathe Dataslate after that? Did I miss something?

Tarald - The Dark Lord of Smeg
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on

Author of the Players Datapad & The Excel Combat Datapad
Darth Smeg's House rules for playing DH with OW rules

 

 

 

 

Reply #725 | Published on 27 September 2012 - 15:27:04

Noticed an oddity that someone might be able to explain:

I pick Child of Dynasty.

I pick Unnatural Origin, False-Man, -3 BS, 2d10 Insanity, +3 WP, +3 Fel (oddly enough, it would let me take WP twice, but I don't think any GM would let that fly)
This costs 300xp.

I pick Tainted, Mutant.. and the second I pick "Wyrdling", my available experience points jump from 200 to 250. Why am I being refunded 50xp when picking Wyrdling?

"It's never too late to panic."
~ Popular Valhallan folk saying

Since so many seem to have trouble understanding Technology, Machine SpiritsMechanicus: Link.

Reply #726 | Published on 27 September 2012 - 16:32:49

Also, the Psyker Powers (Chaos Powers) from Edge of the Abyss (pg.82, Psykana Malifica) aren't available.

"It's never too late to panic."
~ Popular Valhallan folk saying

Since so many seem to have trouble understanding Technology, Machine SpiritsMechanicus: Link.

Reply #727 | Published on 28 September 2012 - 21:13:11

When you get a refund it means there's a Talent or Skill double up, iirc. The books say in such cases the character may take the Talented (Skill) talent, if applicable, or get a refund on the XP cost of 50xp. The sheet doesn't handle the Talented option, you only ever get the xp discount.

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Reply #728 | Published on 28 September 2012 - 23:36:36

nikink said:

When you get a refund it means there's a Talent or Skill double up, iirc. The books say in such cases the character may take the Talented (Skill) talent, if applicable, or get a refund on the XP cost of 50xp. The sheet doesn't handle the Talented option, you only ever get the xp discount.

But.. Wyrdling is a mutation. I have no idea why it would think that I've gotten two of the same talent.

"It's never too late to panic."
~ Popular Valhallan folk saying

Since so many seem to have trouble understanding Technology, Machine SpiritsMechanicus: Link.

Reply #729 | Published on 01 October 2012 - 17:33:00

God, I really hate the forum software. I feel like I'm spamming like mad, but it really doesn't let me edit my preceding posts.

Any idea when/if you're going to add Deathwatch - Honour the Chapter?

"It's never too late to panic."
~ Popular Valhallan folk saying

Since so many seem to have trouble understanding Technology, Machine SpiritsMechanicus: Link.

Reply #730 | Published on 08 October 2012 - 06:22:36

Many talents grant situational modifiers to skill tests, but the sheet treats them as a permanent bonus. This is wrong in many situations.

For example, Electro Graft Use give a +10 to Tech Use, Inqury and Common Lore tests (all of them) only "whilst connected to a data point." For most situations this will not be the case, but a forgetful () player will simply look at the sheet which has inflated all his Common Lore skills.

The same is the case for certain implants, like Scribe Tines. Described as a replacement hand which makes using books and data-slates easier, it really makes no sense for this implant to give a permanent bonus to simple Common Lore tests to recall facts or people. 

Tarald - The Dark Lord of Smeg
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on

Author of the Players Datapad & The Excel Combat Datapad
Darth Smeg's House rules for playing DH with OW rules

 

 

 

 

Reply #731 | Published on 12 October 2012 - 14:14:36
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Reply #732 | Published on 15 October 2012 - 01:26:58

Cjalw1 said:

Ignore this post .

Ok.

While I'm ignoring that, another bug:

The shiny new Diplomacy skill does not display on the print sheets due to missing formulas in Skills!B and C.

Tarald - The Dark Lord of Smeg
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on

Author of the Players Datapad & The Excel Combat Datapad
Darth Smeg's House rules for playing DH with OW rules

 

 

 

 

Reply #733 | Published on 15 October 2012 - 05:47:03

Thanks Darth, a bug along with the fix, just the way I like it.

I've made quite a few changes since the last release, the most important one being a macro fix for non-English versions of excel. I'll take a look at doing a minor release this week …

As for the comment about conditional bonuses to skills, I hear what you are saying, I've tried to ensure conditional bonuses are not applied and the ones you've pointed out do break that rule. Do we need a house rule option to apply the bonuses to the final sheet or should it be left up to the player to remember and apply them manually in the right circumstances?

Rogue Trader/Dark Heresy/Deathwatch character sheet

Lord of the Ring LCG: Custom quests OCTGN

Reply #734 | Published on 15 October 2012 - 06:03:36

Fgdsfg said:

Noticed an oddity that someone might be able to explain:

I pick Child of Dynasty.

I pick Unnatural Origin, False-Man, -3 BS, 2d10 Insanity, +3 WP, +3 Fel (oddly enough, it would let me take WP twice, but I don't think any GM would let that fly)
This costs 300xp.

I pick Tainted, Mutant.. and the second I pick "Wyrdling", my available experience points jump from 200 to 250. Why am I being refunded 50xp when picking Wyrdling?

When you pick Wyrdling the sheet is looking up the psy rating from the "Mutation" Sheet (next to the Wyrdling entry) and since this hasn't been filled in yet it is getting a bit confused. Once you've entered that data it all settles down again. I'll try to make sure it behaves better if the cells are blank.

Rogue Trader/Dark Heresy/Deathwatch character sheet

Lord of the Ring LCG: Custom quests OCTGN

Reply #735 | Published on 15 October 2012 - 08:47:41

Memetix said:

Do we need a house rule option to apply the bonuses to the final sheet or should it be left up to the player to remember and apply them manually in the right circumstances?

Well, you're going to be wrong "half the time" either way you go, but knowing my players they are MUCH more likely to remember to apply a bonus than a penalty :)

Perhaps mark those skills where you have situational bonuses with an * or something. Or, even better, show the bonus-included-value in paranthesis after the base-level? 

Tarald - The Dark Lord of Smeg
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on

Author of the Players Datapad & The Excel Combat Datapad
Darth Smeg's House rules for playing DH with OW rules

 

 

 

 

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