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The Hoth Cycle - What We Know So Far
Published on 12 January 2013 - 01:31:37
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Reply #46 | Published on 20 January 2013 - 19:08:52
That's actually a good point. And blast damage isn't as powerful in a DS deck as a LS one since you have to destroy 8 objectives rather than just 3.

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Reply #47 | Published on 20 January 2013 - 19:18:09

Xenu's Paradox said:

That's actually a good point. And blast damage isn't as powerful in a DS deck as a LS one since you have to destroy 8 objectives rather than just 3.

If you were getting to 8 objectives destroyed before winning, you missed something.  By the 4th objective you should have the dial at 11 (4 + 3 + 2 + 1 for objectives, 1 for your first turn), and that's if you destroy 4 objectives on your first turn… when you can't attack.  Sure, Decoy at Dantooine can help a little, but I doubt you'd get quite that much.

Reply #48 | Published on 20 January 2013 - 19:18:40
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8??  How did you arrive at this number?

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Reply #49 | Published on 20 January 2013 - 19:55:09

I went through all the scanerios.  With a combination of "Decoy at Dantoine" and "False Lead" the current worse case scenario is 6 objectives.  DS cannont fail to win if it destroys 6 objectives, and that takes some very suboptimal play to stretch it that far.

 

I suspect he missed the part where the dial increases by 1 for each objective in the victory pile, and is just increasing by 1 each time an objective is destroyed.

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Reply #50 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 00:08:36

Aahzmandius_Karrde said:

 

I went through all the scanerios.  With a combination of "Decoy at Dantoine" and "False Lead" the current worse case scenario is 6 objectives.  DS cannont fail to win if it destroys 6 objectives, and that takes some very suboptimal play to stretch it that far.

 

I suspect he missed the part where the dial increases by 1 for each objective in the victory pile, and is just increasing by 1 each time an objective is destroyed.

 

 

Oooh, I did indeed miss that. I was actually going off the whole "you lose if you have to pull a new objective and can't" bit, forgetting about the fact that the DS dial increases whenever you ace a Light objective entirely.

Also, the LS COULD theoretically use It Binds All Things to recycle False Leads, so you could HYPOTHETICALLY have to empty the LS player's Objective Deck. It's just massively unlikely.

One does not simply warg into Hodor.

Reply #51 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 01:48:27

Xenu's Paradox said:

Aahzmandius_Karrde said:

 

I went through all the scanerios.  With a combination of "Decoy at Dantoine" and "False Lead" the current worse case scenario is 6 objectives.  DS cannont fail to win if it destroys 6 objectives, and that takes some very suboptimal play to stretch it that far.

 

I suspect he missed the part where the dial increases by 1 for each objective in the victory pile, and is just increasing by 1 each time an objective is destroyed.

 

 

Oooh, I did indeed miss that. I was actually going off the whole "you lose if you have to pull a new objective and can't" bit, forgetting about the fact that the DS dial increases whenever you ace a Light objective entirely.

Also, the LS COULD theoretically use It Binds All Things to recycle False Leads, so you could HYPOTHETICALLY have to empty the LS player's Objective Deck. It's just massively unlikely.

And you really though that the game intended the DS player to have to kill 8 objectives in order for an offensive DS player to win?  That didn't sound very odd?

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Reply #52 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 11:40:32

ScottieATF said:

Xenu's Paradox said:

 

Aahzmandius_Karrde said:

 

I went through all the scanerios.  With a combination of "Decoy at Dantoine" and "False Lead" the current worse case scenario is 6 objectives.  DS cannont fail to win if it destroys 6 objectives, and that takes some very suboptimal play to stretch it that far.

 

I suspect he missed the part where the dial increases by 1 for each objective in the victory pile, and is just increasing by 1 each time an objective is destroyed.

 

 

Oooh, I did indeed miss that. I was actually going off the whole "you lose if you have to pull a new objective and can't" bit, forgetting about the fact that the DS dial increases whenever you ace a Light objective entirely.

Also, the LS COULD theoretically use It Binds All Things to recycle False Leads, so you could HYPOTHETICALLY have to empty the LS player's Objective Deck. It's just massively unlikely.

 

 

And you really though that the game intended the DS player to have to kill 8 objectives in order for an offensive DS player to win?  That didn't sound very odd?

 

Brain fart.

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Reply #53 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 13:39:18

What is the date on the first pack? Anyone know yet?

Reply #54 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 14:03:34

cooleo1c said:

What is the date on the first pack? Anyone know yet?

Sometime in February is the general assumption.

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Reply #55 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 14:09:02

Supposed to be February but looking more like March.

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Reply #56 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 14:13:06

cooleo1c said:

What is the date on the first pack? Anyone know yet?

On the 'Upcoming' page of this site, the Desolation of Hoth is still listed as 'In Development'.  Given that the cards haven't even been sent to the printer yet, and then another 4-6 for the boat journey, I'd say early March is probably a more realistic expectation at this point.  That is assuming they are close to being done with development, though.  

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Reply #57 | Published on 21 January 2013 - 20:26:50
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sojo2600 said:

cooleo1c said:

 

What is the date on the first pack? Anyone know yet?

 

 

On the 'Upcoming' page of this site, the Desolation of Hoth is still listed as 'In Development'.  Given that the cards haven't even been sent to the printer yet, and then another 4-6 for the boat journey, I'd say early March is probably a more realistic expectation at this point.  That is assuming they are close to being done with development, though.  

 

That is assuming the website is up to date. Potomac distribution shows Feb 28th for their date, but they also show all of the other ffg stuff on that same date so take it for what you will.

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Reply #58 | Published on 24 January 2013 - 14:58:02

Desolation of Hoth now shows as At the Printer as of today.

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Reply #59 | Published on 24 January 2013 - 16:35:55

Based on you experience, what does that mean as far as timing is concerned?

Geki… what else?

Reply #60 | Published on 24 January 2013 - 17:07:56

Toqtamish said:

Desolation of Hoth now shows as At the Printer as of today.

Nice!!

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