Parakitor said:

Yes but the scale in the film is all off. The exterior dimensions are different from the interior dimensions which are different from the matte paintings. Scale is all up in the air since the source material wasn't even consistent. What I heard from documentaries is that all they cared about when making the film is that things looked right. They weren't as concerned with consistencies from shot to shot.

EDIT: From that perspective, all this game needs to do is make it look right. I'm not gonna be measuring my figures to the nanometer to make sure they're right. It just needs to feel right when I look at it. Wizards of the Coast's Starship Battles game definitely didn't do that, but I think FFG will make sure the Millennium Falcon and the Slave I don't look too small compared to the other fighters.

 I just noticed, the ships in the game box look to be the right size proportional to one another. The other images are probably taken from an earlier draft of the game.

MarthWMaster said:

Really? I read that TIE fighters are about 8 m tall but X-wings are 12.5 m long. That means the X-wing should be 1.562 times as long as the TIEs are tall, meaning an extra 1/2 the height of the TIE. Maybe my source is incorrect.

Budgernaut said:

Grr, Budgernaut, I was hoping you wouldn't bring that up, though I was well aware of the fact . Because now, basically, all our concern about scale is thrown out the window because if we think it's "wrong" we're simply directed to another reference where the scale in the game is "right." Curse Obi-Wan and his "certain point of view"!

The various information sources I have (WEG Sourcebooks, "Art of Star Wars" books, Blueprints, posters and cross-sections books) say that an X-Wing is 12.7 meters long, and that a TIE Fighter is 6.3 meters wide.

What the heck is "wide"?  Are the referring to wingspan or what would be length on any other fighter?

Well, not even doing measurements but just looking at the cockpits and sorta visually superimposing pilots on them, it just seems to me that either the TIE is a bit big or the X-Wing is a bit small. I'm not gonna worry about it, though; they're close, and they look good.

 Sooo…a 1/144 scale Slave1 or MF would look more or less correct? I know the WoW planes we're 1/144 - well, the WWI planes were.

 Oh, and I really want to know the size of these ships and their bases because I want to make a Death Star game "mat".

Baphomet69 said:

NOOO!! Much too big. We don't know the ship scales with any precision yet, but from the videos they're plainly quite a bit smaller than F-Toys, and those are predominantly 1/144. Additionally, FineMolds makes a 1/144 Millenium Falcon model (quite spendy), and it's unassembled hull is just under 8 1/2" long. So, way too big.

But however, the F-Toys' 1/350 Millenium Falcon (and Stellar Envoy), as well as the Imperial Shuttle & both Slave-Is might well be in the ballpark. Don't be goin' out & eBaying them, though, until we know something more concrete!

Okay, let's have some FUN, shall we, while we wait? Twiddling our thumbs, or spinning on 'em?

Here's a miscellany of photos (disclaimer: NONE of them X-Wing minis) that might give you all food for thought. I've, eh, never tried this on these boards so i hope they work. I used Photobucket. My hand is in a couple pix; I'm an adult male, 5'10" tall, 190 lbs and my hands are about average; so compare that to shots from the FFG videos.

EDIT: Looks like 80% success. Direct linkies don't come through, but copy & paste into the browser window does. Eeeh - a work in progress.
First up: two X-Wings. Smaller is the one from WotC's Starship Battles game, larger is the 1/144 offering from F-Toys.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz127/imperator58/TwoX-Wings.jpg

Next! Three X-Wings; WotC, Titanium (appear to have lost a laser; hopefully it's in the box somewhere) and F-Toys.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz127/imperator58/ThreeX-Wings.jpg

Now, F-Toys' 1/144 X-wing & TIE fighter. F-Toys isn't perfect, but they're pretty danged good. This pic is to illustrate proper relative scale between the two.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz127/imperator58/StarWars1-144.jpg

Thye Millenium Falcon! This girl is a MAJOR bone of contention; no one can figure the precise scale because there wasn't any. Exterior shots varied, interior shots varied, and interior didn't match exterior. Folks can (and will) argue about it all day. That in mind, the smaller is F-Toys' best guess in 1/350 scale, and the larger is the Revell pocket easykit (fixin' to get repopped pretty quick). Actually, either one could be 1/350 - from a certain point of view.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz127/imperator58/TwoFalcons.jpg

Finally, here's the hull of the MF in 1/144 by Fine Molds. As you can see, a starship game in this scale would require half a basketball court (doesn't mean we can't try, though!). Side note: Fine Molds actually does the sculpts for F-Toys, so they'll both have the same scale interpretation - as well as the same superb detail.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz127/imperator58/1-144Finemolds.jpg

Aah; and a final note, here's my bet: in the hand, the FFG X-Wing will fall about in the middle between the WotC piece and the Titanium. That'd plant the series at about 1/350. I'll be interested to see how close I am!

 Awesome size comparison. Thanks for that. I realized something else, no point in going with F-Toys or any of the others anyway as you wouldn't have the stand with relevant data or even stats for the ship anyway. I still need to know measurements so I can get started on my 3D Death Star terrain…C'mon, FFG!

Nice job on the photo-comparo, IG-58.  I continue to be curious as to what scale the FFG minis will be, but my guess is that the X-Wing will be somewhere between the Titanium and the WotC.  I'd be excited to find out that IG-58 is right, and that they are between the Titanium and the F-Toys.

If the TIE Fighters in FFGs pics are production models and not just test-shots, then I would have to say that they definitely look too big, especially referencing the F-Toys picture.

I tried to find a picture of a Fine Molds X-Wing and TIE Fighter in the same frame and failed.  That would have been an excellent comparison shot.  But I did find someone who measured the kits when assembled.   This is what they posted:

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TIE Fighter:

wingspan - 3.25"
depth (widest point) - 3.5"
depth (bottom of wing) - 2 7/16"
Height - 4 1/8"

X-Wing:

wingspan - 5 7/8"

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As you can see, the wingspan of a TIE is less than the wingspan of an X-Wing.  The FFG pics show minis that don't reflect that relationship.  In fact, the TIE wingspan looks nearly as big as an X-Wing wingspan to me…

 Assuming the demo games in the videos were using pre-production ships, they appear smaller in width than the bases, which just by looking at the bases compared to people's hands in the videos look to be about an inch square (big assumption). I would assume the base hasn't needed to be changed since then, but now the ships in the new promo pics look to be just about as wide as the bases. That info and a $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee, but any math wizards here care to figure how 1" wide ships compare to IG's estimate of scale?

Where are those confounded videos? I can't find which thread the linkies are in. I was measuring the WotC X-Wing and think I might have to eat crow on my 1/350 prediction, but I'd need to watch the vid again to have a better idea.

 Here:

About half way down the page, under videos.