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Talisman The City Expansion
by Velhart
Published on 08 October 2012 - 22:16:13
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Reply #166 | Published on 12 January 2013 - 18:38:18

Steve-O said:

Velhart said:

 

I like luna the owl. :D

 

 

No kidding.  That one looks like a game-changer to me.  (Not a game-breaker, mind you, but I can definitely see Luna become a popular follower once this expansion is out.)

That's right.

If you have fate, just focus on the crags, forest or the enchantress to gain automatically a strength or craft point.

If i  have luna with me, then i go to the waterfall in the highland or to a other place to replenish my fate:D

Luna is one of the first things that i will buy. But i also want the great axe :)

Reply #167 | Published on 12 January 2013 - 22:52:41

My only gripe with the later expansions(just recently got Highlands, so Luna reminded me of this) is how they recycle some of the artwork in the cards. It can be confusing if you have two followers with the same artwork, but different properties and names.

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Reply #168 | Published on 13 January 2013 - 04:51:51

zealot12 said:

 

My only gripe with the later expansions(just recently got Highlands, so Luna reminded me of this) is how they recycle some of the artwork in the cards. It can be confusing if you have two followers with the same artwork, but different properties and names.

 

 

That´s True. It would be better if FFG use new artwork. But new artwork means more money..

So to avoid this, they use old artwork with some new text added to it…

Reply #169 | Published on 13 January 2013 - 13:01:22
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Wow, I really like the characters they posted so far. Usually I become quite whiney about OP-chars but these just seam like lots of fun!

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Reply #170 | Published on 14 January 2013 - 02:45:05

Velhart said:

Steve-O said:

 

Velhart said:

 

I like luna the owl. :D

 

 

No kidding.  That one looks like a game-changer to me.  (Not a game-breaker, mind you, but I can definitely see Luna become a popular follower once this expansion is out.)

 

 

That's right.

If you have fate, just focus on the crags, forest or the enchantress to gain automatically a strength or craft point.

If i  have luna with me, then i go to the waterfall in the highland or to a other place to replenish my fate:D

Luna is one of the first things that i will buy. But i also want the great axe :)

I don't know if everybody realized that buying a Great Axe is a matter of money, while buying Followers is a matter of money and luck. You don't buy pets, you pay Gold to draw a Pet card. This means you might need a lot of Gold to cycle the deck and find Luna the Owl. It would be nice if the deck was balanced mixing powerful and less powerful Followers, but they all look game-breaking so far (Glitter, Luna, Singe, Wart, Whiskers and Fang from a sneak peek).

The City answers brilliantly to one of the few unanswered issues in Talisman: how to spend Gold.

I don't know what they will be adding with the next board expansion, though.

 

A wizard is never too late. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

Reply #171 | Published on 14 January 2013 - 14:01:41

Finally! I think it's gonna be the best expansion so far. 

I'm really curious what's next.

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Reply #172 | Published on 14 January 2013 - 20:04:27
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evilmg said:

Finally! I think it's gonna be the best expansion so far. 

I'm really curious what's next.

I said that when Blood Moon came out!  (but I'm probably going to say it again, too!)

 

what will they do for future expansions?  I think the only concept they haven't totally exploited would be Gods, Goddesses and other forms of divine/semi-divine beings?  Make a great small expansion?  Probably have 2 or 3 different groupings, or 'Pantheons' of beings.  Norse, Greek and Egyptian? You have the option of becoming dedicated to a God, or having them as your Patron deity. This can give benefits, but the Pantheon that is not yours may be the   problem? (in some ways it might be like the homebrew "The Lady" ?)

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Reply #173 | Published on 15 January 2013 - 17:02:04

The_Warlock said:

 

I don't know if everybody realized that buying a Great Axe is a matter of money, while buying Followers is a matter of money and luck. You don't buy pets, you pay Gold to draw a Pet card. This means you might need a lot of Gold to cycle the deck and find Luna the Owl. It would be nice if the deck was balanced mixing powerful and less powerful Followers, but they all look game-breaking so far (Glitter, Luna, Singe, Wart, Whiskers and Fang from a sneak peek).

The City answers brilliantly to one of the few unanswered issues in Talisman: how to spend Gold.

I don't know what they will be adding with the next board expansion, though.

 

You are right. I completely forgot that you must draw the pet card….

I think we should be happy about that.

But if i have enough money, then it don´t hurt to go to the pet shop to increase your chances.

I think that wart is the weakest follower from that group.. :) 

Reply #174 | Published on 15 January 2013 - 18:36:42
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So there is balance! That is great. I love this game.

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Reply #175 | Published on 16 January 2013 - 14:50:32

The Armoury Weapons looks very OP. Hey, I want to be the Warrior with two Flails atontado

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Reply #176 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 02:51:20
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I think with the City exp some Characters from the base game can get some profits and not to be so weak in comparison with Characters from some expansions.

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Reply #177 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 03:31:34

Nidhögg said:

 

The Armoury Weapons looks very OP. Hey, I want to be the Warrior with two Flails atontado

 

 

They are.

I don't think wielding two Flails will make the Warrior roll 4 dice, as the card says "roll 2 dice in battle and add them together". It will also conflict with the Warrior's ability to roll 2 dice and choose one, in a way that I'm not sure how to resolve.

Prices are good, but not proportionate. Stiletto should cost 2G (at least as a Sword in the Village) and the Greatsword 4G (3G is like an Axe in the Village). Great Axe should cost 6G or 7G, because it's the most powerful Weapon in the game (even better than the Rage Talon Relic from the Highland).

In general, these items should have been priced as standard Items that have lower effects. Making them better and less costly is a little bit OP.

Same goes for the Stables: we have prices from the Livery Stable in the Sacred Pool, why keep Riding Horse and Mule at the same price (3G for a Mule is a LOT! I hate buying it from the Livery Stables), increase Horse and Cart to 5G and lower Warhorse to only 4G? This is a warlike City.

Magic Emporium looks very good. Crystal Sceptre is an excellent addition to the game and it encourages players to focus on Craft only. I think many Characters are limited by the necessity of increasing Strength at all costs, to be ready for a possible Crown fight.

All in all, I'm not afraid that this will dramatically change balance. I never have excess of Gold in my pockets, mostly because I spend it whenever I can. I may collect piles of Gold in the advanced part of the game, but if I am strong enough will I take the time to visit the City and spend my Gold, or will I head for the Crown? That's an interesting option for late mid-game.

Highland may make the difference with gem Trinkets and give an early boost to some Characters, but you have to venture there as soon as possible, hoping to draw Diamonds instead of Cloud Dragons. Leprechaun will be able to get some goodies early on, abusing his Woods ability.

The Bounties are not so easy to get and claim as it seems. You have to land on the City gate to take a Bounty card and you have to land there again to claim the Gold. Considering that movement in the City goes only clockwise, without a teleport Spell or Objevt you have to make the whole circle of the Street Area to try to land there. You'd better exit to the Outer Region and try to land from there, but still it can be frustrating if you don't have movement add-ons (Walking Stick, Gilded Compass, Witch's Broom or the like).

A wizard is never too late. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

Reply #178 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 04:07:03
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The_Warlock said:

The Bounties are not so easy to get and claim as it seems. You have to land on the City gate to take a Bounty card and you have to land there again to claim the Gold. Considering that movement in the City goes only clockwise, without a teleport Spell or Objevt you have to make the whole circle of the Street Area to try to land there. You'd better exit to the Outer Region and try to land from there, but still it can be frustrating if you don't have movement add-ons (Walking Stick, Gilded Compass, Witch's Broom or the like).

City rules state: "If a character buys a Wanted Poster, he may claim the bounty any time during his turn." This is the easier way to claim bounty without landing on City gate. But you can also land there and claim bounty for free (without taking Wanted Poster).

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Reply #179 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 05:13:41

Croonos said:

The_Warlock said:

 

The Bounties are not so easy to get and claim as it seems. You have to land on the City gate to take a Bounty card and you have to land there again to claim the Gold. Considering that movement in the City goes only clockwise, without a teleport Spell or Objevt you have to make the whole circle of the Street Area to try to land there. You'd better exit to the Outer Region and try to land from there, but still it can be frustrating if you don't have movement add-ons (Walking Stick, Gilded Compass, Witch's Broom or the like).

 

 

City rules state: "If a character buys a Wanted Poster, he may claim the bounty any time during his turn." This is the easier way to claim bounty without landing on City gate. But you can also land there and claim bounty for free (without taking Wanted Poster).

Right, I missed the line where you can claim the bounty at any time if you bought the Poster. You have to land on the City Gate only once to claim a bounty, either to buy a Wanted Poster or to claim the bounty on a faceup Wanted Poster.

A wizard is never too late. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

Reply #180 | Published on 17 January 2013 - 06:06:18

Velhart said:

The_Warlock said:

 

 

I don't know if everybody realized that buying a Great Axe is a matter of money, while buying Followers is a matter of money and luck. You don't buy pets, you pay Gold to draw a Pet card. This means you might need a lot of Gold to cycle the deck and find Luna the Owl. It would be nice if the deck was balanced mixing powerful and less powerful Followers, but they all look game-breaking so far (Glitter, Luna, Singe, Wart, Whiskers and Fang from a sneak peek).

The City answers brilliantly to one of the few unanswered issues in Talisman: how to spend Gold.

I don't know what they will be adding with the next board expansion, though.

 

You are right. I completely forgot that you must draw the pet card….

I think we should be happy about that.

But if i have enough money, then it don´t hurt to go to the pet shop to increase your chances.

Now that we know that the Street Area of the City is a one-way circle, it makes the Pet deck cycling a lot more difficult!

There are 12 Pets and you have to be really lucky to get the Pet you want in 3-4 draws (which costs by the way 2+3+4+5=14 Gold!). In addition to that, you can't repeat the visit to the Menagerie at will, you have to make a whole circle around the Street Area to visit the shop another time.

I think this justifies the powerful Items that you can get in the City.

A wizard is never too late. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.

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