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One Solo Deck to Rule Them All! - Deck + Games
Published on 23 October 2012 - 07:24:19
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Reply #16 | Published on 08 November 2012 - 00:18:35

Maggical said:

First turn Light of Valinor + Elrond's Council gave me basically 3 extra turns before the Balrog attacked.

Hmm, do you mean that you reduce your threat level to -3?  I think the general concensus in this forum is that a player cannot reduce the threat level below 0, simply for the fact that the threat tracker cannot represent a negative number.  Although I haven't seen any official ruling on this point, I play the game that the threat level cannot be reduced below 0.

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Reply #17 | Published on 08 November 2012 - 08:14:35

Angus Lee said:

Hmm, do you mean that you reduce your threat level to -3?  I think the general concensus in this forum is that a player cannot reduce the threat level below 0, simply for the fact that the threat tracker cannot represent a negative number.  Although I haven't seen any official ruling on this point, I play the game that the threat level cannot be reduced below 0.

Exactly that. I never found any rule that says your threat cannot be reduced and I don't think making a call based on the threat counter would be good. Imagine life counters for Magic, most don't reach more than 40 life and you can still gain more. It would be good to get an official ruling on this but I don't think a negative threat is illegal…

Any thoughts on this?

Javier

"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen" - Michael Jordan

Reply #18 | Published on 08 November 2012 - 14:34:39
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 What is negative threat? You become the hunter instead of the hunted?

 

I would have assumed that there are only two options:

a) you have threat; So you have a positive number in your threat marker (1 to 50)

b) you don't have threat; S you have zero in your theat marker;

 

You cannot have a negative threat. What is that? You become the defender of the quest and the encounter becomes the "thing" that tries to accomplish the quest?

 

You will say "then I will not fulfill Gandalf response or Elrond's Counsel; the FAQ says:

Q: If I can’t discard 3 resources from all of my heroes due to Bitter Wind (KD 56), do I have to partially fulfill the effect?
A: Yes, players should resolve as much of any “discard” effect as they are able to.

 

So if it has this rulling to encounter card efects, i assume we must follow the same rule to player card efects.

Carlos José Matos

Reply #19 | Published on 09 November 2012 - 11:16:25

 I've been wanting a new solo deck. I'll give this one a try. I only have a single core set though so I'll have to add a few things. A copy of Song of Lore, Asfaloth, Daeron's Runes,  and Master of the Forge I think.

Reply #20 | Published on 09 November 2012 - 16:05:49

 How do you deal with the Troll at the beginning of Journey down the Anduin? Simply hope to get lucky with sneak attacks and Gandalf?

Reply #21 | Published on 09 November 2012 - 21:15:20

 I just did the three core quests with my slightly modified version of the deck.

I did beat Journey Down the Anduin on my first try, but I also did get lucky with a Rivendell Minstrel (for Song of Kings), Sneak Attack, and Gandalf.

 

For Escape from Dol Guldur I had Glorfindel as my prisoner and a really brutal set-up (Ungoliat Spawn, Chieften Ufthak, etc). It was a loss within a couple of rounds.

I reshuffled and said "Heck with it, ima jus make Denethor be my captive."  That time things went MUCH better. It was still close in the end though, Denethor went down, the other two Heroes were one wound away from being dead, I only had one ally left, and I was over 40 Threat, but I won! 

It was my first solo victory against Escape From Dol Guldur !

Reply #22 | Published on 12 November 2012 - 08:19:21

CJMatos said:

 What is negative threat? You become the hunter instead of the hunted?

 

I would have assumed that there are only two options:

a) you have threat; So you have a positive number in your threat marker (1 to 50)

b) you don't have threat; S you have zero in your theat marker;

 

You cannot have a negative threat. What is that? You become the defender of the quest and the encounter becomes the "thing" that tries to accomplish the quest?

 

You will say "then I will not fulfill Gandalf response or Elrond's Counsel; the FAQ says:

Q: If I can’t discard 3 resources from all of my heroes due to Bitter Wind (KD 56), do I have to partially fulfill the effect?
A: Yes, players should resolve as much of any “discard” effect as they are able to.

 

So if it has this rulling to encounter card efects, i assume we must follow the same rule to player card efects.

I see your point but I still think a negative threat should be possible. Either way hopefully we get an official answer…

 

gatharion said:

How do you deal with the Troll at the beginning of Journey down the Anduin? Simply hope to get lucky with sneak attacks and Gandalf?

You have such a low threat that you can basically build up. You then can defend with Denethor with +1D thanks to Arwen and swing with Glorfindel, Northern Tracker and such a couple of turns. Basically you build yourself and choose when to engage, that's the good thing about this deck…

 

gatharion said:

I just did the three core quests with my slightly modified version of the deck.

I did beat Journey Down the Anduin on my first try, but I also did get lucky with a Rivendell Minstrel (for Song of Kings), Sneak Attack, and Gandalf.

For Escape from Dol Guldur I had Glorfindel as my prisoner and a really brutal set-up (Ungoliat Spawn, Chieften Ufthak, etc). It was a loss within a couple of rounds.

I reshuffled and said "Heck with it, ima jus make Denethor be my captive." That time things went MUCH better. It was still close in the end though, Denethor went down, the other two Heroes were one wound away from being dead, I only had one ally left, and I was over 40 Threat, but I won!

It was my first solo victory against Escape From Dol Guldur !

Glad you hear you like the deck! I've put a lot of effort into it…

"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen" - Michael Jordan

Reply #23 | Published on 12 November 2012 - 09:30:13

 Here's how the deck looks with my modifications: (Remember, only one core set.)

Heroes-

Eowyn, Glorfindel, Denethor

Spirit-

Norther Tracker x 2

Arwen Undomiel x 3

Elfhelm

West Road Traveller

Escort from Edoras

Ancient Mathom x 3

Light of Valinor x 3

Unexpected Courage

Miruvor

Elrond's Counsel x 3

A Test of Will x 2

Hasty Stroke x 2

The Galadhrim's Greeting

Lore-

Warden of Healing x 3

Master of the Forge x 2

Rivendell Minstrel x 2

Gildor Inglorion

Haldir of Lorien

Gleowine

Henamarth Riversong

Asfaloth x 2

A Burning Brand

Daeron's Runes x 3

Secret Paths

Leadership-

Steward of Gondor x 2

Sneak Attack x 2

Neutral-

Gandalf x 3

Song of Wisdom

Song of Kings

Reply #24 | Published on 12 November 2012 - 09:35:59

 I burned through the Mirkwood cycle.

Easy victory on the first time through with all of the quests, except for Journey to Rhosgobel. For the second run through I modified the deck for that one, took out a few cards and added some Healing Herbs and Lore of Imladris, it then became a snap.

Reply #25 | Published on 13 November 2012 - 09:15:51

gatharion said:

 I burned through the Mirkwood cycle.

Easy victory on the first time through with all of the quests, except for Journey to Rhosgobel. For the second run through I modified the deck for that one, took out a few cards and added some Healing Herbs and Lore of Imladris, it then became a snap.

You really don't have to do that. The whole idea of the deck is to not modify it and beat all the quests. For that one in particular you just need to mulligan for a Northern Tracker…

"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen" - Michael Jordan

Reply #26 | Published on 15 November 2012 - 10:16:22

I played through Kazad-Dum. I failed the first time on the Seventh Level, just swarmed by enemies. For the next  run through I got Burning Brand on Denethor and that made a huge difference. Easy victory for the others.

 

Maggical said:

gatharion said:

 

 I burned through the Mirkwood cycle.

Easy victory on the first time through with all of the quests, except for Journey to Rhosgobel. For the second run through I modified the deck for that one, took out a few cards and added some Healing Herbs and Lore of Imladris, it then became a snap.

 

 

You really don't have to do that. The whole idea of the deck is to not modify it and beat all the quests. For that one in particular you just need to mulligan for a Northern Tracker…

I'm not really seeing how Northern Tracker makes a big difference for Journey to Rhosgobel.

I'm sure I could have beaten it with out modifications, but it would likely have taken awhile, JtR is a pretty specialized quest, very different from the others so I don't feel bad about building for it.

Reply #27 | Published on 15 November 2012 - 10:46:39
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gatharion said:

 

 

I'm not really seeing how Northern Tracker makes a big difference for Journey to Rhosgobel.

I'm sure I could have beaten it with out modifications, but it would likely have taken awhile, JtR is a pretty specialized quest, very different from the others so I don't feel bad about building for it.

 

Partialy agreed. Only 14 locations, but with Northern Tracker you can clear Rhosgobel in the stage 1b of the quest and use, for instance, Warden to heal Willyador, without problems.

 

And unlike Caradhras, Rhosgobel do not return in stage 2b, because the quest card doesn't order you to travel to it when you reveal quest card 2a or 2b.

 

So, if you take your time during stage 1b, but you have explored Rhosgobel, then you can heal Willyador wihle searching for Athelas and then storm through stage 2b (12 progress) and in 1 or 2 turns win the quest….

 

So I see why he says Northern Tracker is a must in hand.

Carlos José Matos

Reply #28 | Published on 18 November 2012 - 09:30:42

CJMatos said:

gatharion said:

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not really seeing how Northern Tracker makes a big difference for Journey to Rhosgobel.

I'm sure I could have beaten it with out modifications, but it would likely have taken awhile, JtR is a pretty specialized quest, very different from the others so I don't feel bad about building for it.

 

 

 

Partialy agreed. Only 14 locations, but with Northern Tracker you can clear Rhosgobel in the stage 1b of the quest and use, for instance, Warden to heal Willyador, without problems.

 

And unlike Caradhras, Rhosgobel do not return in stage 2b, because the quest card doesn't order you to travel to it when you reveal quest card 2a or 2b.

 

So, if you take your time during stage 1b, but you have explored Rhosgobel, then you can heal Willyador wihle searching for Athelas and then storm through stage 2b (12 progress) and in 1 or 2 turns win the quest….

 

So I see why he says Northern Tracker is a must in hand.

But you've only got the Warden for healing Wilydor and he just heals one damage and then has to be discarded. Useful in a clutch situation as one is better than nothing, but hardly something you can strategize around.

Reply #29 | Published on 18 November 2012 - 11:31:24
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 Not in stage 1b.

 

Only stage 2b says the the healing card must be discarded…

Carlos José Matos

Reply #30 | Published on 19 November 2012 - 08:05:38

Hi Maggical! Master of the forge can help you to find stuart of gondor, light of valinor or song of kings very quicly! what do you think about?

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