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Star Wars: The Card Game
Take command of a Rebel strike force in the Star Wars universe!

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Thoughts of Tournaments - Objective Sets - Open Play - And Multiplayer - All wrapped Up In One

by jesterhawk

Published on 20 February 2013 - 14:06:41

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jesterhawk

Reply #16 | Published on 22 February 2013 - 23:04:34

D.Knight Sevus said:

1) I don't think anyone here is arguing that all games that limit 3x/4x copies of a card are poorly designed, and that Objective Set play is the "one true way" to build a deck. My personal argument is that having a flat limit shifts the power grossly towards the more powerful unique cards. The primary advantage of the low-cost units is that you can play more of them in a deck - you can have 4 TIE Fighter, 4 X-Wing, 4 Jedi In Hiding, but only 2 Luke Skywalker or Emperor Palpatine. If the limit is flat, then that advantage evaporates. As another consideration, if the limit per deck is more than 2x, then you also require an additional 1-2 Core Sets as well as an additional Force Pack to play in a side format - not an insignificant investment.

Ok, I think I finally see your point and I agree that is a nice factor of this game that brings balance. Sorry I wasn't getting it before.

D.Knight Sevus said:

3) Again, my point wasn't "hurray, now you have to use the cards you'd otherwise leave aside!" but rather the Objective Set system lets FFG govern how many of a given card your deck can contain on a card-by-card basis, within the structure of the core rules. Yes, you can use 4 Rebel Assault, but only if you are willing to use the Rebel Alliance affiliation. And since the two objective sets that include Rebel Assault both favor a Vehicle-based strategy, you can only use 4x of the best burn card in the game if you're willing to commit to 40% of your deck being very Vehicle-based. Trying to explain that kind of rules structure in traditional deckbuilding would be labrynthine, but it's inherent to Star Wars: The Card Game through simple virtue of the Objective Set system.

This goes to point 1 and I get it now. Hadn't really looked at it from a balancing of power cards but an inclusion of weak cards. Looking at it the other way I see your very valid point.

D.Knight Sevus said:

4) I disagree, I believe that edge battles were a periphrial concern when designing objective sets - I would argue the primary concern was creating a cohesive mechanical and narrative theme throughout each objective set and encouraging cinematic moments when those cards interact with one another.

Could be.

One thing is for sure, I love playing the game and am looking forward to years of play!

->> JH

DailyRich

Reply #17 | Published on 23 February 2013 - 08:30:18

Does FFG have any policy on bringing notes to the table? I didn't see anything mentioned in the tournament rules for the other LCGs, but with Star Wars and its set structure, as soon as you see your opponent's objectives, you immediately know fifteen other cards that are in their deck. Is there anything to stop someone from bringing a card list with them for reference?

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SmokeyJ

Reply #18 | Published on 23 February 2013 - 09:22:51

DailyRich said:

I don't know about FFG official tournament rules, but I know at my local game shop it would be pretty hard to pick up a game if I brought a quick reference like this.

Oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only two meters wide. That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! Do you have any idea what this is gonna do to my credit?

Hannibal_pjv

Reply #19 | Published on 26 February 2013 - 14:06:41

And any good player remember all cards in all objektive sets in anyway, so why bring card lists?

You can expect a lot of games where opponent says something like: Hmm… So you have Luke and Home one in your deck. It does not save you!

Before playing anything else than just after revealing objektives. Be ready for real beatdown after that, because your opponent have seen the future beforehand ;-)

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