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Space Marine Chapters
by Kerrahn
Published on 26 February 2010 - 06:31:33
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Reply #16 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 06:40:07

From what I remember about Calixis sector, there is known presence of aspects of two chapters: Black Templars (they have a chapter keep somewhere there) and Iron Hands (two of their Dreadnoughts are guarding shrine of Drusus on, ehm, not exactly sure, Sentinel?). There are mnetions in Radical´s Handbook about one named Inquisitor cooperating with Relictors, plus I think there would be Hammers of Retribution as PtU gives them some mystery and they are unique to 40kRPG (my speculation is they are based in mentioned Jericho Reach).

From artwork already online, several chapters can be identified: Dark Angels/Unforgiven (main page left), Space Wolfs (clearly in description article), Iron Hands (description artwork of SM with bionics and poweraxe, his right shoulderpad, altough barely visible clearly bears symbol of IH) and maybe Black Templars (Terminator at the bottom of description, not exactly sure but his armour and little visible part of shoulderpad have some distinct crusader feel).

I hope for supplements about some little bit wierder chapters who have dealings (willing or not) with Inquisition: Grey Knights, Red Hunters, Relictors, Exorcists and so on.

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Reply #17 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 06:41:45

The Hobo Hunter said:

Personally, I would be expecting chapter 'archetypes' more than any specific chapters, for a more broader approach to marine backgrounds.

Much like how Dark Heresy has "Feral, Hive, Noble, etc" instead of "Dusk, Scintilla, Malfi", I'd prefer to see "Steadfast, Frenzied, Reclusive etc" to "Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Dark Angels", if you all get what I mean. Specific chapters of origin should be left like DH unique homeworld options IMHO.

I'd prefer that too. Means more initial diversity than having fixed Chapters for each "homeworld" option.

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Reply #18 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 06:53:14

MILLANDSON said:

The Hobo Hunter said:

 

Personally, I would be expecting chapter 'archetypes' more than any specific chapters, for a more broader approach to marine backgrounds.

Much like how Dark Heresy has "Feral, Hive, Noble, etc" instead of "Dusk, Scintilla, Malfi", I'd prefer to see "Steadfast, Frenzied, Reclusive etc" to "Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Dark Angels", if you all get what I mean. Specific chapters of origin should be left like DH unique homeworld options IMHO.

 

 

I'd prefer that too. Means more initial diversity than having fixed Chapters for each "homeworld" option.

Well I think it could be done quite nicely and fluffy-sounding. Origins as Sons of Sanguinius (for Blood Angels and all their descendants), Unforgiven (robed ones and their inheritors), Codex Chapter (Ultramarines and such), Scions of Iron (Iron Hands, Iron Lords, Preators of Orpheus and other chapters with ties towards Mechanicus), Crusaders (IF, BT and dozens other chapters sharing crusader form of existance)... And more unique chapters could be added as unique origin in IH (so there would be modification for Flesh Tearers in Sons of Sanguinius origin)

I´m wondering how is character creation handled, from Chapter of Origin to Career/Specialisations. Origin Path as in Rogue Trader? Backround Packages as DH? Or something new?

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Reply #19 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 07:24:50

I's think they'd be less chance of founding chapters and more of their successor's (though there's bound to be some), such as the Relictor's successor chapter to the Blood Angle's.

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Reply #20 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 07:34:32
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TorogTarkdacil said:

 

Well I think it could be done quite nicely and fluffy-sounding. Origins as Sons of Sanguinius (for Blood Angels and all their descendants), Unforgiven (robed ones and their inheritors), Codex Chapter (Ultramarines and such), Scions of Iron (Iron Hands, Iron Lords, Preators of Orpheus and other chapters with ties towards Mechanicus), Crusaders (IF, BT and dozens other chapters sharing crusader form of existance)... And more unique chapters could be added as unique origin in IH (so there would be modification for Flesh Tearers in Sons of Sanguinius origin)

 

Yeah, that's where I see this going (my post was pretty much my thoughts typed out in about two seconds so it was pretty rough). At least, I see this as the best possible course of action, as it leaves things open enough for as many chapters as possible, and allows the same sort of 'unique' origins in a vein similar to DH.

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Reply #21 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 08:01:48
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Dark Angels (the guy on the left) has Dark Angels iconography on his armor.

Blood Angels (the guy on the right) has Dark Angels iconography on his chest.

I think the other one is a Space Wolf but I'm not 100% on that.

It's possible they are doing the chapters that have GW books and one of the more popular chapters like Iron Hands, Crimson Fists ect.  They might also introduce Grey Knights with a serious note that they are NOT Ordo Xenos and are there to help create traditional drama and roleplaying opportunities.  Then again there would be power level issues... unless GK's are getting nerfed in an upcoming Codex.  Of course that would mean GW knows what's going on more than 3 months in the future...

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Reply #22 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 10:25:59

I would imagine FFG will go for 6 of the first founding chapters, probably:-

1. Ultramarines

2. Space Wolves

3. Blood Angels

4. Dark Angels

5. Imperial Fists

6. Either the Whitescars, Salamanders or Raven Guard, leaving the others for later supplements.

They'll probably make each of them the equivalent of a "Homeworld" in DH. The beauty of this system is that it would enable you to play characters from any of the successor chapters. So if you wanted your character, Brother Sergeant Colin Jones (I might work on the name further), to come from the Novamarines, you'd generate the character as if he was from the Ultramarines, and then adjust his background and skills according to your own perception of the doctrines of his personal chapter.

From there, you'd then decide upon his speciality (techmarine, assault marine etc.)

That's how I'D do it anyway!   It would work because 99% of the Marine Chapters would be successor chapters from these guys. Technically the Salamanders and Space Wolves don't have a lot of successor chapters, but I suspect there'd be a bit of an outcry if the Space Wolves weren't included. 

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Reply #23 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 12:25:01

Lightbringer said:

 Technically the Salamanders and Space Wolves don't have a lot of successor chapters, but I suspect there'd be a bit of an outcry if the Space Wolves weren't included. 

    Outcry? More like howl from beyond...

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Reply #24 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 13:45:16

Don't the Spacewolves hace some newly rediscovered fleet that was lost in the Eye of Chaos?

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Reply #25 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:16:06

Drais said:

Don't the Spacewolves hace some newly rediscovered fleet that was lost in the Eye of Chaos?

    Lost fleet? Oh, you must mean the 13th Great Company. The Wulfen disappeared into the Warp during the Heresy, hounding the Thousand Sons. During the 13th Black Crusade there were some reports of mysterious feral Space Marines engaging the Chaos forces. The description fits the long lost Wulfen.

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Reply #26 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:21:59
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Ultramarines (They will be the generic Chapter)

Space Wolves (Feral, Close Combat)

Dark Angels (Brooding, Dark Secret,)

Relictors (Radical faction, the Space Marine Character from Inquisitor was I believe a member of the Relictors Chapter).

Iron Hands (Tech Orientated)

Raven Guard (Stealthy)

Possibly 

Hammers of Retribution (Simply because they were introduced in Purge the Unclean)

 

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Reply #27 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:24:06
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Actually scratch Relictors I think in present fluff they are completly renegade.

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Reply #28 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:25:29


The Space Wolves don't have many successor chapters but they are far larger than most other chapters, organizing themselves as a bunch of Great Companies.  Six of one, half dozen of the other.

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Reply #29 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:37:07

Cynical Cat said:

 

The Space Wolves don't have many successor chapters but they are far larger than most other chapters, organizing themselves as a bunch of Great Companies.  Six of one, half dozen of the other.

 

 

The Space Wolves only canonical founding was the Wolf Brothers, who were later expunged due to "genetic deviance."  It is believed they suffered a far greater incident of the Mark of the Wulfen than their brothers, and may have been purged by the Space Wolves themselves in an effort to hide their own genetic flaws.  Doesn't mean there aren't others though.

Grey Knights already a chapter tied to one of the Ordos, one which would very likely NOT tithe members for stints in the Deathwatch.  The Exorcists, a founding from the Grey Knights could very well be a possibility.

Personally, I'd like to see the Death Spectres pop up, even though the Ghoul Stars are Galactic Northeast, and the Calixis Sector is Galactic Northwest.  After all, their sole purpose is containing some of the most feared Xenos species ever encountered by man.  A job they reputedly do quite well.

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Reply #30 | Published on 27 February 2010 - 15:51:56
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I woudn't be surprised if instead of Ultramarines we got one of their successor chapters, just to mix it up a little.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this post are my own. I do not speak for FFG in any capacity, officialotherwise. To be honest they don't really tell me much about anything, so you can assume I don't know squat.

 

I mean diddly. I don't know diddly. I did not mention squats. Squats are not making a comeback.

 

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