Anonymus said:

Space Dwarves with machine guns are still cooler than fat hobbits with slings.

I'm sorry, but my argument wins.

Necrozius said:

We should probably get rid of the orcs, goblins, trolls, elves, dwarfs, dragons, and ogres too while we're at it. Or are we only getting rid of the Tolkien-esque fantasy clichés YOU don't like?

However, you'd be thoroughly mistaken if you think halflings are actually being removed from Warhammer. They are still in the Empire Army book printed by GW and it is only they that can remove elements from the background.

Hellebore

Which argument? Maybe you should  elaborate instead of throwing around wierd comments?

Hellebore said:

Come to think of it, I don't really like Orcs in Warhammer. Born from fungus? Ha ha ha ha.

The Orcs in World of Warcraft make much  more sense. The ones in Harry Potter too.

Necrozius said:

Lol, the woe is me misunderstood green barbarians? Awesome. Painting some human barbarian tribes green and enslaving them to daemons makes them very interesting.

The only reason the orc exists in settings like WoW and D&D is to create a 'human' that it's 'ok' to kill. They are just tribal ugly humans. At least Warhammer's orcs are a little more different than that. They are their own race with their own mindset. Alien rather than misunderstood.

Hellebore

Necrozius said:

Necrozius said:

In the end, it is still more original. hahaha

Hellebore said:

Orcs have a mindset?

Mayhap you're dislike of them has prevented you actually reading anything about them.

Hellebore

Er sorry- I'm actually just trolling you. I couldn't care less about orcs or halflings.

No Haflings? Can't understand that. Personally i'm not a great halfling fan, but in my group and most groups i know (real life and internet) they are very popular player races. Normally every group has an halfling-PC.

On the other hand most groups i know, have no elf characters. They are considered as to high-fantasy and are very seldom in the setting.

Don't understand FFG. For me it look that they will "crash WFRP 3rd on the wall".

Elves, who are supposed to be rare to extremely rare in the empire gets two choises... Happy days. Maybe we can soon play as saurus and skink in the empire to?

What I dont get is why Wood Elves, they are the most insular isolationists in the Warhammer world and that is in a world of insular isolationists. If I was running a game (of any edition) I would always ban charcters with a Wood Elf backgroun because they just do not fit.

Kaihlik

I'm sure halflings still exist in the game. Just not supported until later, or maybe a nod in the background/bestiary

If halflings were so poplular, cool, and played by so many people they wouldn't have been cut from the first release.  Since they are honestly not so popular, as say Elves, Orcs etc.

And cutting Dark Elves and Orcs because haflings are out, like the one poster suggested is silly, like halflings are anyway near as cool as orcs and dark elves, or popular :)

All I can say is halflings are generally my first choice of PC race when I'm playing (or they're at least in for serious consideration). When I'm GMing, there's generally a halfling in the group. I'd say they're more popular among my group than elves, or at least on the same level.

And what do you mean "cut from the first release"?

I find it completely ridiculous to cut the halflings from character choices. The halflings bring a different aspect of roleplaying within the game itself, always acting a bit more cheery in an extremely grim setting. They also represented a faction that had a good amount of knowledge on the undead, due to the proximity of the Moot and Sylvania.  It was a poor choice to remove that option from the game.

As for wood elves, I can't understand it. They are extremely secular, usually avoiding any contact with other civilizations unless facing an emergeny. And even then, it would take a hell of a push to get them out of the woods. I think this in itself shows that the 3rd edition is heading more towards a table top fighting game than a traditional rpg.