Do we know if there will be any more books?

Dark Heresy has quite a few books now, with a pretty sizeable bulk of content. While it's nowhere near such bloated hulks as GURPS or D&D 3.5, I can't help but wonder what's coming next. Deathwatch seems to be in a similar spot, with little left to make but adventures or rules for more chapters.Only War is wrapping up its beta soon, and once it releases we'll have a nice wait before we get anything further for it. Black Crusade should be getting a further three books (one for each god) and Rogue Trader is safe as long as they can think of more xenos to include, but I have to wonder: what's left for 40kRPG?

Plushy said:

 I doubt it, I would imagine that any serious rules balance in the line has come to an end, though. Dark Heresy seems like a clunky, old car compared to Only War, but considering that it's the best selling (and the fan-favorite) line, I'd imagine they'd keep it running for money's sake. Because of the premium prices they place on their books, it seems like it would be ridiculous to start a " 2nd ed." that outmodes all of the previous content and alienates those who paid that premium price to own those books. While writing an FAQ for all the books doesn't seem beyond them, the idea seems very unattractive, almost. 

But honestly, I would prefer to have to convert things to an entirely new system than jury-rig a game using OW. 

I'd appreciate a "Calixis Sector sourcebook" in the meantime, though. 

This line is far from over! And there are many books that I at least would still like to see and possess to run my games. Here's just a few ideas of what I would like to see:

A sourcebook for the Ordo Xenos

Books giving some more information for the Guardsman, Psyker, Adepts and Assassin classes like the Cleric and Sororitas had the BoM, Arbites (and Scum to a degree) had the BoJ and Tech-priests will have the LW. In fact I think that these could immensly interesting with detailing how other parts of the Imperium works in the Calixis Sector. 

 A sourcebook for the Calixis Sector with new information about various planets and stuff

So there's plenty of room for expanding the line as far as I can see.

Gurkhal said:

Absolutely agree. Deathwatch has the two outstanding sourcebooks, Achillus Assault and the Jericho Reach, I would love to see a pair (or more) of equivalent volumes for the Calixis Sector. I know we've had piecemeal books that cover aspects of the Sector, but I would love to see some pure "Sector books."

There is still plently to do, Calixis Sector Sourcebook, Witchhunter and Alienhunter, splatbook about Assasins, whole fluffbook DEDICATED to Tyranite Cabal…

But I still hope we will get Puritans Handbook. Many argue that all what should be there was already presented in IH and BoM, but there are still many things which could be adressed such as writeup of Puritan factions, adding of some minor ones, interactions in "official" Inquisition institutions, how to operate an acolyte cell which is not undercover (you know, those pesky firebrands with "I" in poles, or militants riding in chimeras with all Ordo heraldy…) and chapter about various types of excrutiation, interoggation and mindrape.

And of course, Ordo Chronos Sourcebook. 

 This was on my mind when I got my copy of The Lathe Worlds. I dont think the line will be over. Everything that was mentioned before I'd love to see and i'm sure other players and GMs would as well. I can point to numerous threads on this forum about wanting more information on Moritats and other death cults. And i'm sure there are some resources that adepts and psykers could use to further the glory of the Emperor. 

I don't think the line is over. I still expect an Eldar-based game to be announced any time now. And there are plenty of potential Sourcebooks for DH: ones focused on specific careers (the way Blood of Martyrs did for Clerics, Book of Judgement did for Arbites and Scum, The Lathe Worlds does for Techpriests,and Only War was supposed to do for Guardsmen…). Plus I've been asking for a Calixis Sector Sourcebook (or multiple Subsector Sourcebooks) for a while now, along with an Ordo Xenos Sourcebook (since Hereticus and Malleus have a great deal of cross-over in the threats they tackle, Xenos is the least-supported Ordo in DH- and there are a bunch of Calixis-specific xenos mentioned in The Radical's Handbook that have never been followed up on). And then there is the possibilty (likelyhood?) of a DH 2nd Edition; and, taking a page from the D&D line, the potential for alternate settings. So, the game system has plenty of potential for new books, as long as the sales hold up…

 However, the system needs to be fixed and I'm pretty sure they know this. 

Once again, I could totally picture the hypothetical "system update" as a chapter in the Calixis Sector Sourcebook. It would be too long to include in OW.

Kainus said:

What exactly is it you see as broken? What do you want in a "system update"?

Lionus said:

The system has undergone four revisions since DH came out. Psychic powers are pretty ridiculous in Dark Heresy. Unnatural characteristics are +2 instead of x2. Skill bloat is a big issue in Dark Heresy. Firing has been extensively changed (all modes of fire are Half actions, Single shot is now +10, Full Auto is -20 iirc)

Simply put, it's miles behind the other lines. There's also a pretty big issue of Tech-Priests and Psykers being better than everyone else, with the former now capable of doing any job in the game.

Plushy said:

Adeptus-B said:

Can we get a Ratling-based game, while we're at it? 
If you've been under a rock for the last 4 years, FFG has produced numerous 40K RPG related supplements featuring Eldar. Why not just work it out yourself? I did. I actually had rules for Eldar "Wayfinders" and Dark Eldar outcasts before Rogue Trader ever hit the shelves, Nathan Dowdel has produced some amazing home-brew Exarch rules for use with Deathwath, The Koronus Bestiary is leaden with Eldar Aspect Warriors, Wraithguard and Wraithlords, Lure of the Expanse has Farseers and Warlocks, Soul Reaver is purported to have rules for Dark Eldar Kabalite Warriors (perfect base material for launching your own Character creation, just make them fluffy and fresh instead of evil), Creatures Anathema has Pathfinders and Dire Avengers…need I say more? There is more than enough Eldar material available. Besides, what would a game of technologically-advanced, introspective future-obsessive hippies play like? Like Dark Heresy, except with Farseers telling the Children where to go and what to do, instead of Inquisitors to Acolytes. 

So seriously; can we get a Ratling-based game?

Just kidding!
Give the Eldar-based game requests a well-deserved break.

Alekzanter said:

Eldar are popular, Ratlings aren't.

-And I wasn't 'requesting' an Eldar-based game (I have my hands full running Dark Heresy and Deathwatch campaigns), just responding to the question about future books: a ton of people have been asking for an Eldar rpg for years now, so I would be surprised if FFG didn't have one in the works.

Alekzanter said:

>Ratlings

>a minor unit in the Imperial Guard

>Craftworld Eldar

>the most humanized non-Human faction in 40k and an entire army on the tabletop

Hardly a fair comparison. None of the things you have listed are character generation rules. I maintain my stance that FFG hasn't given us Eldar rules in Rogue Trader because they're saving them for their own game. You know people would buy it.
 

I understand there was some mention of the future of the 40K rpgs at GenCon's Inflight Report from FFG. Can't seem to find anything about in the news-section though (except a small mention in the caption of Day 2).

Did anyone pick up anything of what was said there?