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Epic Final Battle & Nyogtha
Published on 25 September 2012 - 20:21:02
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If the 1st player escapes Nyogtha's attempt to pull him underground, then what happens during the Epic Battle? Is Nyotha's combat rating -3 only for this turn for the 1st player or is it -3 for the rest of the game? If the benefit is only for the current turn, then it will be useless if the Investigator's attack 1st (which is what usually occurs during Epic Battle.) If the 1st player survives the 1st attack by Nyogtha, then will this AO try again on every subsequent turn that there are survivors left to be devoured?

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Reply #1 | Published on 25 September 2012 - 17:37:33

On any given turn, only one investigator gets to take advantage of the -3: the First Player.

Unfortunately, this also means that that player has a chance of being killed outright.

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Reply #2 | Published on 25 September 2012 - 19:03:46
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Tibs said:

On any given turn, only one investigator gets to take advantage of the -3: the First Player.

Unfortunately, this also means that that player has a chance of being killed outright.    

    Oh, I think I see what you're saying ----- the 1st player always gets to attack at -3, even if Nyogtha attacks 2nd during Epic Battle. My original interpretation (which now appears to be incorrect) was that the Investigator had to survive 1st before being able to take advantage of the -3 combat rating. Am I understanding you correctly?

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Reply #3 | Published on 25 September 2012 - 21:11:26

Yes I think you are.

Nyogtha's tentacle appears before the 1st player.

His tentacle is his weak point, and the investigator attacks it.

Nyogtha attempts to drag the 1st player down. Whether or not the investigator dies, the investigator still got in his attack.

"Ashcan" Pete will take that off your hands when you're done with it.
Charlie Kane would befriend a strangled cat if given the chance.
Finn Edwards has very deep pockets.
Hank Samson does not care that you've mastered time travel.
Lily Chen can punch a hue.
Lola Hayes is the world's best Egyptologist.
Mark Harrigan is very good at hedge mazes.
Michael McGlen has never experienced an earthquake.
Minh Thi Phan makes group hugs empowering.
Patrice Hathaway plays songs you can't get out of your head.
Tommy Muldoon is most qualified to be deputy, yet for some reason nobody want him to be.
Tony Morgan sells meat out of the back of his van.
Ursula Downs can shop at an empty store.
Wendy Adams always wins at hide and seek.
William Yorick has a Bachelor's in Cryptozoology—no wonder he can't find work.
Wilson Richards will paint over anything for a dollar.
Zoey Samaras can torch a fire vampire.

Reply #4 | Published on 27 September 2012 - 03:12:03

Thematic reasons for the -3 modifier, Nice! 

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Reply #5 | Published on 29 September 2012 - 20:21:01

This is is a nitpick, but: the thematic explanation is actually that Nyogtha is largely undergound.  The first player is always pulled underground at the start of the round (or, well, after Upkeep); this means that the investigator has a good chance of being eaten, but it also means that he is able to attack Nyogtha directly, whereas the others aboveground can only attack its tendrils.  This why Nyogtha's The Creature Surfaces card, which (surprisingly enough) entails Nyogtha surfacing, gives everyone the bonus to attack.

What remains, it would seem, has no artistic significance.

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