It was originally a question because I was angry that I couldn't do something against my wife's new deck. Competitive drive is a fierce, two-headed companion :-P

I unfortunately have to agree with you though, Penfold, about blanket immunity. The problem I'm going up against now is that some factions are less equipped to deal with location removal than others. Hopefully this doesn't drive the meta to be nerds vs. anti-nerds…

Hi,

   From Damon Stone

Short Answer:
The immunity prevents effects of that type from targeting AND/OR resolving on that card.

Long Answer:
Deranged Diva is a character and her effect is therefore a character ability. She may not use her ability to affect Explorer or Scientist characters with Station Eismette. It doesn't matter that her controller is not the one choosing the characters because it is her effect that causes the other player to target the character. Immunity prevents targeting, in any way, due to that kind of effect. The non-targeted type of effects still could not resolve on a character immune to that type of effect, so even if the targeting issue was true, it would still have no effect on a character with that type of immunity.

Where the difference matters for this is that the controller of Station Eismitte cannot target his own Explorer or Scientist characters with Deranged Diva's ability, but they must choose someone to target if able. The effect only fizzles if there is no other legal target.

Sacrifice effects, like from Cthulhu character also count?
(just making sure)

So the only way to get rid of The Claret Knight is passive effect, blanking his box (but not using triggered ability) and during a story struggle.
(this guy is going to be quite irritating)

hmm… maybe take controll and then pay sacrifice as a cost… he can be sacrificed as a cost right? its not effect then?

Here's another question regarding Station Eismette:

Are characters protected by Station Eismette immune to Paul LeMond's triggered ability?

"Action:  Pay 1 to choose a character.  Until the end of the phase, Paul LeMond gains all of that character's printed icons."

We ruled (temporarily) that Paul LeMond could not copy the icons of a character protected by Station Eismette as he has to choose a target, even though the effect is resolving on Paul LeMond.

What do you think?

Yes, that's right, according to the FAQ and also to Damon. "Immunity prevents targeting, in any way, due to that kind of effect.". Like you said/ruled, Paul LeMond has a triggered ability, and the Explorer/Scientist would have to be targeted by it, but this is impossible because of the granted immunity. Even with Paul's ability only "reading from" and not "doing" anything to the target character.

This kind of choose doesn't feel like targetting the effect for me.

FAQ on targetting:
The word target is used to indicate that an effect is directing a player to choose 1 or more cards for an effect to resolve on.

But other part of this paragraph doesn't focus on this "to resolve on" part and focuses on choose word. idk

And with effects like Apeirophobia:
Action: Choose a non-Ancient One character. That character's controller chooses to either have that character to go insane or discards X cards from his hand. X is the skill of the chosen character.

My interpretation would make Discarding cards still possible (and the only legal option) when targetting Immune character, so maybe with effects like lemond other choices must be made.

Seems like immunity will need more detailed description with new Knight and this MU support, as it looks like a quite powerfull protection type that's not that easy to understand.

.Zephyr. said:

'Choose' is a defined term signalling a targting effect, and as was clarified by Damon the immunity extends to both targeting _and_ affecting the character.

 You're sure he was referring to this case?
I mean to every effect that has any choose character. And explicitly statling that even if effect does not resolve on this character its still targeting this character.

Because it's really easy to use non 100% precise wording whan you didn't think about some interaction.

I guess "immune character cannot be chosen" semantics is simpler so its better, but i would not be 100% sure it's as simple as that.

Paul Lemond's ability can't choose an Explorer or Scientist as a target when Station Eismette is in play. Despite my original objections, it's pretty cut and dry.

I submitted a rules question and got a really fast answer from Damon Stone:

Q: Station Eismitte + Dr. Carson: Is his Action triggerable because of Eismitte? (Dr. Carson has to be exhausted as a cost, and I'm unsure if costs are prevented through immunity, too.)

A: Correct. Paying a cost is a player action not a card effect.

Q: Is the Claret Knight's Response ever usable? (It's a triggered effect, and he's immune to such effects due to his passive ability. Erratum?)

A: A card can never be immune to its own effect.

Q: Station Eismitte will prevent a Reckless Elder Thing from wounding itself?

A: Reckless Elder thing would be wounded