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Star Wars: Edge of the Empire
Roleplay adventures on the fringes of the Star Wars galaxy
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Speaking of making the Rebels cool again…
by ErikB
Published on 10 February 2013 - 19:53:22
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Reply #16 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 13:10:29

ErikB said:

Well, like I say US soldiers in the second world war averaged about 2 inches taller than their european colleagues, and much taller than Japanese soldiers.

I have no idea why US soldiers being taller then Japenese soldiers means anything when trying to defend how Luke and Rebels are "big American corn fed boys" (and it's already been pointed out, they weren't).

ErikB said:

And you need to remember what Stormtroopers look like under the helmets…

Again, I'm not sure why this matters at all to the discussion at hand. During casting it wouldn't matter at all what they looked like, only if they were a certain height and fit inside the suit.

You are going off on tangents that don't support the argument you are making. You are just turning to new arguments that no one was arguing with you about in the first place.

   

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Reply #17 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 15:20:43
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Sturn said:

I have no idea why US soldiers being taller then Japenese soldiers means anything when trying to defend how Luke and Rebels are "big American corn fed boys" (and it's already been pointed out, they weren't).

Imperial Japanese Army and Emperor Hirohito?

Another way you can imply to Rebel characters that they have picked the right side is if brainwashed Stormtroopers often commit suicide with grenades rather than be capture by the Rebels…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxeCFcl-D4

DONNY! 
Yeah? 
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Reply #18 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 16:24:51

ErikB said:

 

Sturn said:

I have no idea why US soldiers being taller then Japenese soldiers means anything when trying to defend how Luke and Rebels are "big American corn fed boys" (and it's already been pointed out, they weren't).

 

Imperial Japanese Army and Emperor Hirohito?

Another way you can imply to Rebel characters that they have picked the right side is if brainwashed Stormtroopers often commit suicide with grenades rather than be capture by the Rebels…

 

This is exactly my point. You used the US/Japanese size difference when defending your comparison of Rebels to "big American corn fed boys". That was shown to be untrue. You are now suggesting, by changing your argument, that you were just comparing the Imperial Japanese to the Imperial Army of Star Wars. No one is going to argue there are not similarities. That wasn't the argument, you just shifted it. You were NOT simply saying the Imperial Japanese and Imperail SW Army were similar, you were saying US soldiers are taller then the Imperial Japanese so this makes the US soldiers (aka SW Rebels), "big American corn fed boys".  Slipping back to Imperial Japaense = similar to Imperial SW (which is true) does not make your initial argument true.

   

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"I dont need a medal, God knows what I did" - SGT William Hisle, WWII, after receiving a letter regarding a belated recommendation for the Medal of Honor. A hero twicefold, he threw the letter away. RIP Grandfather.

 

Reply #19 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 18:23:37
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Well, the argument is how you make Rebels better soldiers than Imperials.

Like American soldiers in the second world war, their better diets makes them larger and stronger than their opponents. They are better trained and equipped because their leaders actually give a shit about them rather than treating them as disposable equipment. And they have far more personal initiative because it has not been brainwashed out of them in the reeducation camps.

DONNY! 
Yeah? 
We got an Imp here who wants to die for the Emperor! Oblige him! 
Reply #20 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 19:17:07

ErikB said:

Like American soldiers in the second world war, their better diets makes them larger and stronger than their opponents. They are better trained and equipped because their leaders actually give a shit about them rather than treating them as disposable equipment. And they have far more personal initiative because it has not been brainwashed out of them in the reeducation camps.

The US had "reeducation camps" also during WW2. My grandfather told me some strange stories of the brainwashing that went on during Ranger training back then.

   

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"I dont need a medal, God knows what I did" - SGT William Hisle, WWII, after receiving a letter regarding a belated recommendation for the Medal of Honor. A hero twicefold, he threw the letter away. RIP Grandfather.

 

Reply #21 | Published on 09 March 2013 - 19:57:11
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How to make the Rebels look bad is another thread. This is more of a sales pitch for why your players want to be Rebels rather than Imperials.

:0)

Essentially -

Rebels:- Quality

Imperials:- Quantity

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