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Does a planet with a revealed "Hostile Locals" domain counter count as "uncontrolled"?
Published on 29 July 2012 - 12:59:36

For the purposes of game effects? Example: the Arborec's Bioplasmosis reads as follows:

"At the beginning of the Strategy Phase, you may move 1 Ground Force from a planet you control to a friendly or uncontrolled planet in an adjacent system.

(Discard any Domain Counters on the planet)."

Now I understand the obvious exception above, but does that only apply to unrevealed Domain Counters? Once a Hostile Locals counter has been revealed does the planet then count as "controlled"?

Also, are you able to do the same but to an uncontrolled planet in a system you currently occupy? Meaning, if there are two planets in a system, and you successfully occupied one of the two planets, can you use Bioplasmosis' effect on the other planet?

Thanks and sorry if this has been addressed before, I couldn't find anything about it.

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Reply #1 | Published on 31 July 2012 - 00:10:23

 I think the planet is uncontrolled since no player has units or their control marker on the planet, and thus no player is in possession of the planet's card.

Reply #2 | Published on 31 July 2012 - 09:13:22

Yeah, the hostile locals would be plant food.

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Reply #3 | Published on 01 August 2012 - 08:50:17

Excellent, that's what I figured.

Also, how about Winnarian Custodians? I would imagine then it does count as being controlled since they're not technically Domain Counters. And Mecatol Rex usually has exceptions to other rules surrounding it (no pun intended…that was a stretch).

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Reply #4 | Published on 01 August 2012 - 09:22:29

In general, a planet is considered uncontrolled if no player has the corresponding planet card in front of them. Mecatol Rex is, as almost always, exempt from this generalization.

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Reply #5 | Published on 01 August 2012 - 11:41:02

Yeah, I think the Custodians effectively "control" Mecatol Rex at the beginning of the game if you're playing with them in the game. I look at it as a sort of "scenario rule" that overrides the usual rules. In this case, the rule about what counts as a controlled planet. While the Custodians option section of the rule book doesn't explicitly state this, it seems reasonable.

Reply #6 | Published on 02 August 2012 - 11:56:55

Would it slow down play to go for a cautious yet effective "Scan n Grab" early game? Essentially scan every near planet and just grow on the bad planets (to ignore the penalties/combat) whilst settling the nice ones like normal?

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Wilson Richards: swallowed by a moonbeast

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Roland Banks: Missing, presumed dead.  Last seen in Innsmouth.

Charlie Kane: Stumbled into the maw of a moonbeast in the Black Caves

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Reply #7 | Published on 02 August 2012 - 12:59:36

It would definitley be a slow but effective way to spread.

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