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I love the look of the busts

talismanisland said:

Actually, it is. The current version of the game might have moved away from this origin but the original game, which I played a LOT, definately had its roots in Warhammer. Some of the characters, such as a Chaos Warrior and a Space Marine (Timescape supplement), were iconic & had their own miniatures. Granted this was when the game was produced by GW, but its roots lie in the Warhammer mythos.

Well, the old GW version had the following characters across it's various expansions:

Minotaur, Valkyrie, Archeologist, Astronaught, Astropath, Chainsaw Warrior, Cyborg, Scientist, Space Marine, Space Pirate, Centaur, Ninja, Orc, Samurai, Soldier, Warrior of Chaos, Witch Doctor, Woodsman Amazon, Barbarian, Gladiator, Halfling, Hobgoblin, Knight, Leprechaun, Merchant, Necromancer, Philosopher, Pilgrim, Ranger, Rogue, Satyr.Assassin, Druid, Dwarf, Elf, Ghoul, Minstrel, Monk, Priest, Prophetess, Sorceress, Thief, Troll, Warrior, Wizard.Conjurer, Dark Elf, Inquisitor, Gypsy, Highlander, Martial Artist, Pirate, Saracen, Scout, Sprite, Spy, Swashbuckler, Swordsman, Zulu, Dragon Priest, Dragonrider, Dragon Slayer, Questing Knight.

Almost none of these are truly Warhammer-based. They are simply standard fantasy archetypes. The only ones that are GW IP are the Warrior of Chaos, the Space Marine and the Chainsaw Warrior. 

Alpha Chaos 13 said:

No, it is not.

The 3rd Edition was reduced to being a total Warhammer related dumbed down version, but the original was a totally generic fantasy adventure game.

A Space Marine was brought in to bulk out the science fiction/40K inspired Timescape along with the Chainsaw Warrior and other 40K themed characters, and any other "nods" to Warhammer were in expansions, not the original game.

talismanisland said:

Okay, I'll give you that. If you're looking at the original game only, then I can go with the standard fantasy archetype thing. Except for the Chaos Warrior, who I believe was one of the original characters. He fit right in with the Warhammer ones. That and the ultimate goal. The Crown of Command appears in Warhammer too.

The Warrior of Chaos was included in Talisman: The Adventure, a GW in-house expansion.

The Talisman Expansion Set and The Talisman Dungeon expansions were from the designer (and the original game of course) and were all generic fantasy.

Timescape, City and Dragons were effectively fan-designed expansions and had various influences, and were also tweaked somewhat by GW.

You can see from Bob's own website that the original game was actually based on a school, and it is likely that any fantasy influence would be from Dungeons & Dragons.

As for the Crown of Command, if it is from the Warhammer universe, then it was a GW decision (like changing the name to Talisman) as the original game featured the Necromancer's Isle as the centre space.

 I don't mind the busts, personally. I will still look at getting 40K figs to replace them, but I also play 40K as a wargame and the RPG as well. 

If it is as I've heard and FFG is not allowed (due to their contract with GW) to make figures that too closely resembles the GW line then I think opting for busts is a genious move. I would surmise that it's either that or making cardboard "tombstones" similar to the ones in Arkham Horror.

Perhaps some Character Playing Piece Cards could be designed by someone (you know who Mr Talismanisland) to match the character cards in Relic

Ell.

busts are a non-issue for me.. they look good and you can paint them and that is all awesome and if you do not like them.. use a real figure form GW… end of discussion! :)

Personally I love the busts

Paint em up as marble or granite, both very easy to achieve effects.

Anyone seen them in the flesh?

Weighty? take paint nice?