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Tauros Rapid strike vehicle
by boooh
Published on 05 July 2012 - 05:56:39
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Reply #16 | Published on 07 July 2012 - 11:46:18

boooh said:

I´d rather not push the passanger capacity too much, because then there would be no place to mount the weapon what was my main purpose to make this build.

It would be better to let the squad have two tauros than one big variant, to transpost more man you could choose the chimera with enough space for all.

I build this one based on the imerial armoury for use with the hunter killer, recon and droop troop regiment as a light vehicle not as a mass troop carrier, so you could add to the reconnaissance and hunter killer entry: "or two tauros (or variant) per squad"

 

When you referenced a "Carrier" version, I thought you were referring to "personnel carrier". My own thoughts were on a Tauros Venator that exchanges the heavy weapons and uses the freed up space in the rear for troop capacity.  Now, why such a version?  Well there are a number of Light Infantry type forces that don't keep Chimeras in their inventories, but have a need to move troops by means other then LPCs (Leather Personnel Carriers; ie boots).  Drop troop regiments are a prime example. They're not going to have unlimited and endless access to Valkyries, but will need to move rapid.

 

As far as a Venator not being big enough to carry a squad element, here's a real world example of a similar vehicle:

 

This is an Australian SASR's Perentie Long Range Patrol Vehicle.  Rather Venator'esque, neh?  Rear bed capacity is about what you'd find with the Personnel Carrier versions of the HMMWV, which is six (and eight in a pinch).  And thus the notion I had of a Venator-PC variant for those regiments set up as Light Motorized or Air-Mech Strike.

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Reply #17 | Published on 07 July 2012 - 13:50:59
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Sounds reasonable, so what about this version

you could choose either

Tauros normal version (with higher manoeuvrability maybe (+20)

Tauros venator with either Hunter killer equipment or transport ( either heavy weapon equipment or crew of 5 and normal version weaponry )

or Tauros Carrier (with passanger capability  of 8 but no mounted weaponry on ballancing purpose)

passengers my fire their own weapons in directed firing arcs (right or left and co-driver front and right)

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Reply #18 | Published on 07 July 2012 - 14:16:59

boooh said:

Sounds reasonable, so what about this version

you could choose either

Tauros normal version (with higher manoeuvrability maybe (+20)

Tauros venator with either Hunter killer equipment or transport ( either heavy weapon equipment or crew of 5 and normal version weaponry )

or Tauros Carrier (with passanger capability  of 8 but no mounted weaponry on ballancing purpose)

passengers my fire their own weapons in directed firing arcs (right or left and co-driver front and right)

Pretty good.

A compromise on the carrier? It possess one or more pintel or ring mounts to use a squad's heavy or support weapon(s) not to exceed,…a heavy bolter or heavy stubber? (with that thought, the Guard could REALLY use a SAW or GPMG version of the lasgun…)

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Reply #19 | Published on 07 July 2012 - 17:15:41

MorganKeyes said:

boooh said:

 

Sounds reasonable, so what about this version

you could choose either

Tauros normal version (with higher manoeuvrability maybe (+20)

Tauros venator with either Hunter killer equipment or transport ( either heavy weapon equipment or crew of 5 and normal version weaponry )

or Tauros Carrier (with passanger capability  of 8 but no mounted weaponry on ballancing purpose)

passengers my fire their own weapons in directed firing arcs (right or left and co-driver front and right)

 

 

Pretty good.

A compromise on the carrier? It possess one or more pintel or ring mounts to use a squad's heavy or support weapon(s) not to exceed,…a heavy bolter or heavy stubber? (with that thought, the Guard could REALLY use a SAW or GPMG version of the lasgun…)

They already have one, it's called a Multi-Laser.

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Reply #20 | Published on 07 July 2012 - 22:18:57

DJSunhammer said:

MorganKeyes said:

 

boooh said:

 

Sounds reasonable, so what about this version

you could choose either

Tauros normal version (with higher manoeuvrability maybe (+20)

Tauros venator with either Hunter killer equipment or transport ( either heavy weapon equipment or crew of 5 and normal version weaponry )

or Tauros Carrier (with passanger capability  of 8 but no mounted weaponry on ballancing purpose)

passengers my fire their own weapons in directed firing arcs (right or left and co-driver front and right)

 

 

Pretty good.

A compromise on the carrier? It possess one or more pintel or ring mounts to use a squad's heavy or support weapon(s) not to exceed,…a heavy bolter or heavy stubber? (with that thought, the Guard could REALLY use a SAW or GPMG version of the lasgun…)

 

 

They already have one, it's called a Multi-Laser.

If infantry could carry it, you'd be on track.  But they can't.  As far as fluff goes, you only see the Multi-Laser on AFVs and aircraft. 

What I'm talking about is the Guard lasgun-equivilent to the M249 SAW, RPK-74, M240 GPMG, etc.  Something that is carried by the squad for fire support, and doesn't stretch suspension of disbelief as having them easily haul weapons that stat-wise no different for main armament found on some AFVs,…or that use ammo that runs contrary to Guard doctrine of simplifying resupply and logistics (ie., Bolt shells…for instance).

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Reply #21 | Published on 09 July 2012 - 05:04:29

There was transport pattern Tauros in novel Hammer and Anvil used by Adepta Sororitas, I can´t recall it´s name but its transport capacity was 2 drivers + 5 passangers 

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Reply #22 | Published on 11 July 2012 - 16:36:59
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Might wanna use this?

Medium Stubber: Basic, 100m, S/-/10, 1d10+3I, Pen 2, 50/100, 1/2Full; 8kg; Average
-Note: -5 & -15 on Semi/Full Auto when not braced. Counts as Basic when given Suspensors. Uses Box Clips & Belt Clips.

This fills a nice niche of a SAW when your party lacks a Heavy Gunner

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Reply #23 | Published on 15 July 2012 - 22:55:18

Frankie said:

Might wanna use this?

Medium Stubber: Basic, 100m, S/-/10, 1d10+3I, Pen 2, 50/100, 1/2Full; 8kg; Average
-Note: -5 & -15 on Semi/Full Auto when not braced. Counts as Basic when given Suspensors. Uses Box Clips & Belt Clips.

This fills a nice niche of a SAW when your party lacks a Heavy Gunner

Just me, but'd be even better if a SAW based on the lasgun for commonality. 

But nice stats still!

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Reply #24 | Published on 16 July 2012 - 01:19:44

Here are my stats for the Tauros.

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Reply #25 | Published on 08 September 2012 - 06:00:05
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Considering that a Warbike's armour is 18, 18, 14, I think 12 on all sides is WAY too low. 20 on all sides is perfectly reasonable. You really shouldn't be able to damage the thing with a lasgun and indeed, on the table top something like a Warbuggy or Sentinal is just out of reach of the maximum damage potential of a lasgun (Strength 3 + 6 on the d6 vs their armour on all sides of 10), just as an armour 20 vehicle is just outside of the maximum damage potential of an overcharged lasgun (max 15 damage and 2 Pen vs armour 20, so 3 points short).

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