Hiya,

I'm a big fan of the Fantasy Flight LCG game lines and so with my new purchase of Netrunner a common problem comes up and I was wondering about the potential of a solution, especially for Netrunner but applicable to the other lines too (yay if it hits for AGoT also)

That is, what might be the chances of releasing a playset expansion for the core game? It could be marketed much like the Chapter packs but only contain the cards needed to increase the coreset to be a full playset. It could be priced relative to the number of cards. Counting the number of cards needed to make the coregame a full playset, I get 77 cards total needed. It occurs to me then that this is perfect and can even make use of possible a single playset of a promo card to round the number off to a perfect 80 and give more incentive to purchase the expansion.

Being 80 cards, it would price nicely just above the established price of Call of Cthulhu and AGoT chapter packs. So it'd end up $18-20 and would need no real development time as only a single promo card would need to be designed. (My initial thought would be that a neutral promo Agenda to immediatly give alittle more versatility in deckbuilding the agendas would be of most value)

Please make this happen if you can! I'm certain it'd be a hit! (Then expand it to the other LCG lines! =D  )

So let's hear if this is possible and if so get it to the press fast! I'm so excited about the game and am ready to throw more cash at it lol =D

 I believe FFG has already gone on record as saying they will not be doing this, unfortunately.

That is a cool idea, and honestly, I wish you worked for FFG so we could maybe have seen this. Unfortunately as it stands, you're going to just need to decide to either buy 3 core sets (which if you're like me I recommend going ahead and getting that out of the way) OR waiting for expansions to start rolling out.

FFG has gone on record that they will not do this for any games core set. They prefer to have diversity over quantity of cards in each core set. And it is not cost effective for them to make a just the cards expansion pack for the core sets. If you want more options, get at least two core sets. I have two core sets for A Game of Thrones LCG and it has proven to be a good thing to have. I plan to get at least two, maybe three of Netrunner.

 Were they saying they didn't want to make a 'just the cards' expansion or a core game playset expansion?

I don't propose a 'just the cards' expansion but instead an expansion that specifically only supplies the cards that lack a playset as is in the core. I've considered getting multiple copies of core sets before but really can't quite bring myself to buy it twice more. I've also been asked by friends to split another box and that's much more reasonable to me but while that fills out all the sets that were initially 2ofs, we'd need to split the ones that are packed as singles.

While they may have gone on the record in the past about it, maybe things change and they may be persuaded to go ahead with it if the demand really is there. So while it may have been stated in the past for other games, with a new game line in their lcg collection, new opportunities for change present themselves.

Interestingly, I'm certain many of the rest of you would too. Interestingly, I'd believe that those who bought multiple copies of the core game to fill in playsets would still benefit from buying such an expansion. My thought is that yes, while someone with the money and love of the game may already own 2-3 core sets, give them the opportunity to buy such an expansion and they'd go from owning 1 full playset, and a heap of excess cards to having 2-3 full playsets they can then gift to their friends to get more people into the game.

So while I don't believe any reasoning FFG has for not doing this would change overnight and my friend has already consoled me that it's unlikely to happen, I wanted to still put this out there as it's definitely not going to change unless people are vocal about it in the first place.

So let's hear from everyone! How much would you love this? If you've already bought multiple core sets, would you still then buy more to fill out the excess cards you have into playsets? How much would you pay for this sort of expansion?

 I really think that FFG either made a big mistake in not printing 3 per card in the core set, or not offering that as an option for competive players.

This really strikes me as a money grab to not offer a small expansion pack instead of assuming tournament players will just buy three core sets.

Come on, FFG. Put a plain package offering in your FFG Collector area for $25 bucks and give us the cards to have 3 each from the starter set. Touting the Living Card game as a cheaper alternative to CCGs should compel you to do this.

By my count, it would take 79 cards to get 3-ofs of everything but the Identity cards. I would probably pay $20 for that (based on 60 cards for $15 in the Chapter Packs). But that means I am not spending $40 on another Core Set (or $80 on two more to get 3-ofs of 12 of the cards). If you were FFG, would you rather make $20 or $40-$80?

Plus releasing a core expansion at this point would annoy the people who already bought multiple core sets, who are the people most likely to buy the data packs when they come out.  I don't see FFG releasing a core expansion.

juggler434 said:

This is a great point.

It is never goin to happen folks. FFG has made that clear several times with the other LCGs. This horse has beaten enough. 

Also, as someone who plans on being a "competitive player," I can tell you that two core sets is all you need. The cards that come one-of are not cards that you would want three of in your deck (for the most part - I guess I could see playing three SanSan Grid but, man, would that be expensive). Two Core Sets will give you everything you need to build decks that will win. Also, having two Core Sets will allow you to provide decks for four players (using the starter decks) so you can get more people into the game.

zedward said:

It's actually not. When they re-released old packs from AGoT and CoC with the 60-card format, the overwhelming response was positive. And why shouldn't the same happen here? Even if it's a bit late to be announcing a core expansion, and might even feel a bit unfair for those who already purchased 2x or 3x, why should we want our fellow players to be spending $20 - $60 more on the hobby than they should be?

Even if they did make such an expansion, I'd still skip it and buy a second core set instead.  This ensures enough copies of all the cards I might want three of (Astroscript, Rabbit Hole, Scorched Earth…), but the main reason is being able to build more than one corp and runner deck at a time.  Buying more core sets gives you all the neutrals you (currently) need, and whatever other cards you might want to cross-faction.  A supplementary pack wouldn't give you any of that; all you'd get are more consoles and Data Dealers than you'll ever use.  Yay?

MarthWMaster said:

Not the same thing. Those were expansion packs that used to be 40 cards, 1 copy of 10 cards and 3 copies of 10 cards. They then upgraded them all so that it is now 3x of every card in the re-released packs. Nothing about any of the Core sets for either of those already existing LCG's changed at that point. Just the way expansion cycle packs work. There will be no miniature release of core set cards to bump them all to 3 copies. Buy a second core set or don't. I plan on getting a second one so I can build more decks and also tune decks better for competitive play. The extra copies of cards will allow me to hopefully always have two starter decks ready to go for demos and learn to play. If not I will get a third copy.

Scud-O said:

subochre said:

Agree with both of you. All great points.

 Heh, I started out saying something different, but seeing the posts side-by-side makes me realize I was mostly just parroting Scud-O