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Los Grak said:
That doesn't seem very efficient to me.
But Wrym costs 3 to break a subroutine of strength 0. So, if you encountered Archer, you could spend 5 to boost Wyrm so that it can interact with it. Then spend 3 to drop Archer to strength 3, and then break the subs using Mimic for a cost of 4. Total cost = 12
Mimic alone cannot get through Archer, and if you just use Wyrm, it would cost 5 to boost, then 6 to reduce the strength to 0, followed by another 12 to break the 4 subs = 23 in total.
Is my maths right?
All that we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
I wasn't thinking in terms of combining ICEbreakers to get through subroutines. Forgive.
I've only played runner once so far so I'm still not that familiar with how it works. However, could you please verify for me whether or not an ICEbreaker returns to base strength after breaking all subroutines on a piece of ICE?
An ICEbreaker returns to its listed strength for each new encounter.
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Los Grak said:
I've only played runner once so far so I'm still not that familiar with how it works. However, could you please verify for me whether or not an ICEbreaker returns to base strength after breaking all subroutines on a piece of ICE?
Rulebook, p.16, "Increasing an Icebreaker's Strengh":
After an encounter with a piece of ice, the icebreaker’s strength returns to the value shown on its card.
Note that some breakers are the exception to this rule as they say that the strength boost lasts until the end of the run.
All that we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Paul Grogan said:
byronczimmer said:
4) If Runner wants to break any subroutines on the ICE
4a: Choose an Icebreaker to interact with the ICE
This makes it sound like the runner can only ever use 1 Icebreaker on each piece of ICE.
But from the rules: "There is no limit to the number of installed cards a Runner can use to interact with the encountered ice, but he generally only needs one icebreaker"
"generally", meaning you could use more than one. I'm thinking of the Ice strength reduction effect on Wyrm. Can you use that to reduce the strength. With the wording shown above, I cant see why you cant use Wyrm to lower the strength of an ICE, even if you use another breaker to break it.
Then put an "s" on the word "icebreaker" in Byron's 4a response. The core to remember is the sequence (but, yes, you can use multiple icebreakers if you wish).
Without Signature
So we know we can use multiple Icebreakers, but do their strength stack. If you have two Gordian Blades, can u use them both too have 4 strength or do u just have two 2 strength blades that u can choose to bump their strengths up by spending credit. I am assuming two 2 str blades and so there is little reason to use up that MU for the second blade.
Without Signature
No, each time we use an icebreaker, we check that Icebreakers strength against the ice we are running. If we have two of the same breaker Gordian_Blade[1] and Gordian_Blade[2] are unique Icebreakers and must be used individually. For this reason, having multiple Icebreakers of the same name out is redundant.
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