Buhallin said:

just wait you'll see that Trace has been removed .. i hope i am wrong ;)

anyway of course tag are still here and avoiding/remove tag will still be too but the trace/link process will be removed . 

just see the agenda 4/1 giving 1 BP, it already exists but now it gives a tag … just because there is no more trace cards and u'll see, i'm sure that many cards that didn't give tags before will …

i wanna see more and i'll judge Android definitly when it will be release, don't be wrong i'm happy but i prefer to be prudent and say for instance that Android isn't really NR …

let's see and hope i'll be wrong since NR is just a briliant game

 Dude, you are part of the NR council thing, you guys changed the game, added rules and card that were never in the original game. You have no credibility when it comes to what changes they have made making the game different from the original when you did the same thing. The problem is evident, they changed the game in a way that is different than how you changed it and because of that you are dissatisfied. That is your privilege, but you are not being prudent with all the stuff you are saying you are being whiney.

And Android is a different game, this in Android:Netrunner, or Netrunner for short if you want A:N, but it is not Android. That is a board game that has nothing to do with being a runner hacking into a corporation or being a MegaCorp and trying to advance your corporate agendas.

Give it a rest before you end up in a sanitarium. We don't want you to have a nervous breakdown. Take a deep breath, relax, and repeat after me, change is not necessarily bad. One agenda that gives a tag under no expression of logic equates to trace and link being removed from the game. Keep saying this until you can post something that is factually based.

Penfold said:

thanks for your nice words on me ;)

if i had to have a nevrous breakdown trust me i would have had it for a long time with all the energy i gave for NR …

yes u're right to sayt that we tried to evolve NR by creating new cards but what was very hard was to balanced them in the original environment . that was hard but i think we succedd ( and we are still balancing Open War and deep run)

except u're are a member of the playtesting team you can't say that my saying could be wrong this is hypothetic i admit but here here to speak no ? 

u're right i made a mistake by shrotening Android, i know that is a board game ;)

maybe i can call it Android LCG so , sorry

I'm betting "Netrunner LCG" becoming the common term for it myself.

And, I second the motion that we should wait until we see actual rules before jumping to conclusions or presenting them as anything more than idle speculation for fun.

Edwin20er said:

My friends and I tried making a variant where three hackers went up against one megacorp. We made it through a few variations (turn order, megacorp actions) before we stopped. It was fun for the most part.

dboeren said:

Me too.

dboeren said:

I'm willing to bet that everyone but the veteran fans are going to be referring to this as Netrunner.  This is the only game that a lot of people will know, and if they refer to it to other players of this game, it's not going to be long before it becomes Netrunner, at least from a spoken perspective..  

I never got to play the original, but love CCG/LCG's, have a growing interest in cyberpunk and enjoy the Android IP (I like the boardgame, personally, and want to check out the novel).  Infiltration looks fun too.  Way to go FFG!  Hoping this will be at GenCon to check out.

mastabou said:

I'm pretty sure it will be at Gencon.  That's right in the middle of their projected release window and the impact of making it is huge - you get tons of buzz and a lot of extra profits selling copies at full cost direct to the consumers rather than through distributors.  if it's at all possible, they want it to be there.

 My friends and I have started calling it "Netrunner" because that is what it is. I'm sure that most of the mechanics from the original game will be implemented at some point even if they aren't in initial release. That's just an LCG thing and having it slightly less confusing in the base set is fine by me.

I really hope they do end up releasing this at Gencon. If they do I plan on playing it all Gencon weekend.

Yeah, I guess it's old enough that the confusion is minimal.  I still say that I play the Call of Cthulhu LCG since it hasn't been THAT many years since the CCG version, but perhaps in Netrunner's case enough time has passed that this is unnecessary?

I'm probably going to try to arrange my Gencon event schedule to have at least one evening totally free to play Netrunner, but it's always hard trying to juggle events.  There's far more going on than I can possibly do in just 4 days and they all seem to be scheduled at the SAME TIME.

Something's going to have to get cut :(

evilidler said:

Shadowrun the P&P RPG is still around, yes, but not the Shadowrun CCG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun:_The_Trading_Card_Game

I remember trying it back in the day and being impressed, but not enough to really get into it. The card design was pretty dull, from memory.

BrandonCarpenter said:

This is how I think a possible expansion for A:N would work, ala Magic: Archenemy or the WoW Raid Decks. These have proven that a one v. many format can work in a card game, and with some tweaks and some cards exclusive to the format it could be fun and successful. I hope that at some point someone involved in the game attempts to give this a go. It would make for a fun Deluxe Expansion.

JerusalemJones said:

Basically, there's three categories of actions for the Sauron player paid for using action tokens with diminishing returns if you use them for several actions of the same category. With every additional hero Sauron gets more 'action tokens'. It's noticeable though, that the game gets easier for the Sauron player the more heroes are in the game. So it's not easy to get the balance for such a multiplayer game right.