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Quick question on Favored weapon
Published on 30 December 2012 - 18:28:01
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Group is building a regiment from a world that is extremely rich and provides rather well equipped soldiers.  Their favored basic weapon is the bolter, when adding additional equipment does 'favored basic weapon' add the bolter to the basic kit or allow another weapon as a favored like a flamer?  I'm thinking the latter but wanted to be sure.

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Reply #1 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 01:22:49

Storm Bolter for basic Squad Support with Plasma and Melter readly avalible.

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Reply #2 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 05:10:06
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It adds a Bolter to the Standard Kit.

I've converted Dark Heresy to the Only War system. Please take a look!

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B517sKRcjGNrcmZmV21GSkVoVVU/edit

 

 

Reply #3 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 05:31:10

Plushy said:

It adds a Bolter to the Standard Kit.

Where does it say that? Because originally, the guy who suggested adding that rule to the book (HMBC) meant for the rule to, if I remember correctly, add one favoured weapon to the squad. However, now, from what's written on the page opposite the table, it looks like it allows the choice of a second Favoured Weapon (of either Basic or Heavy type), not that it adds it to the standard kit.

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Reply #4 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 05:46:35
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MILLANDSON said:

Plushy said:

 

It adds a Bolter to the Standard Kit.

 

 

Where does it say that? Because originally, the guy who suggested adding that rule to the book (HMBC) meant for the rule to, if I remember correctly, add one favoured weapon to the squad. However, now, from what's written on the page opposite the table, it looks like it allows the choice of a second Favoured Weapon (of either Basic or Heavy type), not that it adds it to the standard kit.

 

Whoops, I'm an idiot. It adds one Favored Weapon to the squad the last time I checked. I don't think the idea of adding another Favored Weapon makes much sense.

I've converted Dark Heresy to the Only War system. Please take a look!

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B517sKRcjGNrcmZmV21GSkVoVVU/edit

 

 

Reply #5 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 05:48:16

Plushy said:

MILLANDSON said:

 

Plushy said:

 

It adds a Bolter to the Standard Kit.

 

 

Where does it say that? Because originally, the guy who suggested adding that rule to the book (HMBC) meant for the rule to, if I remember correctly, add one favoured weapon to the squad. However, now, from what's written on the page opposite the table, it looks like it allows the choice of a second Favoured Weapon (of either Basic or Heavy type), not that it adds it to the standard kit.

 

 

 

Whoops, I'm an idiot. It adds one Favored Weapon to the squad the last time I checked. I don't think the idea of adding another Favored Weapon makes much sense.

It was just the wording of it that makes it sound like it could mean that… might be worth someone sending a rules question to FFG to clarify?

I'll send one now burla

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Reply #6 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 16:49:57
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See I thought the benefit of having a weapon marked as a "Favored Weapon" meant that it was easier to requisition (small bonus) and that classes like the Weapon Specialist and Heavy Gunner had the option to take them at creation.

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Reply #7 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 20:48:56
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Confusion is that it says 'add one favored X weapon' to the kit.  It reads as this is now part of the gear you start with.  This seems to be silly to allow everybody to start with a heavy weapon, but 15 points is a lot of points just to have the option later of getting it easier.

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Reply #8 | Published on 31 December 2012 - 23:01:00
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The Glen said:

Confusion is that it says 'add one favored X weapon' to the kit.  It reads as this is now part of the gear you start with.  This seems to be silly to allow everybody to start with a heavy weapon, but 15 points is a lot of points just to have the option later of getting it easier.

 

In the Beta, it was clarified to mean one per squad. I don't know if this is true anymore or not, but I think that it makes the most sense.

I've converted Dark Heresy to the Only War system. Please take a look!

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B517sKRcjGNrcmZmV21GSkVoVVU/edit

 

 

Reply #9 | Published on 01 January 2013 - 00:26:35

I'm pretty sure based on the book adding a favoured weapon to a regiment does too things:

* Gives a small bonus to rolls to acquire it based on logistics

* Allows Weapons Specialists to take one as their chosen addition to their kit.

 

Heavy weapon does the same thing for Heavy Gunners.

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Reply #10 | Published on 01 January 2013 - 09:56:56

Rozen said:

I'm pretty sure based on the book adding a favoured weapon to a regiment does too things:

* Gives a small bonus to rolls to acquire it based on logistics

* Allows Weapons Specialists to take one as their chosen addition to their kit.

 

Heavy weapon does the same thing for Heavy Gunners.

Except you are able to pick Favoured Weapons without having to take the options for them on the table, as shown by all the pre-generated regiments and the testing done throughout the Beta.

As I said above, I sent an e-mail to FFG asking for clarification on what the two options on the table actually do.

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Star Wars: Edge of the Empire Playtester

I do not speak in any official capacity for FFG, all my posts are my own opinion, speculation, etc.

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Reply #11 | Published on 01 January 2013 - 19:03:51

MILLANDSON said:

Except you are able to pick Favoured Weapons without having to take the options for them on the table, as shown by all the pre-generated regiments and the testing done throughout the Beta.

As I said above, I sent an e-mail to FFG asking for clarification on what the two options on the table actually do.

 

I figured it added another favoured weapon to the regiment's existing ones; eg. During Regiment Creation, you chose Plasma Gun as your favoured basic weapon and Heavy Bolter as favoured heavy weapon, but by paying the option on the table you can add a Flamer as a second favoured basic weapon.

I agree it seems costly for something which is probably rarely necessary, so I'm eager to see the response from FFG. Keep us posted!

Reply #12 | Published on 01 January 2013 - 21:31:38
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Half your points for one guy to get a +10 bonus to obtain a heavy weapon just seemed extremely steep.  Now if it does add another weapon, can you get a weapon that is more than Very Rare?  I can see a Seige regiment that has a mole mortar platoon in addition to normal field artillery. 

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Reply #13 | Published on 02 January 2013 - 14:53:58

I got a response from FFG, and it is what I'd originally thought:

Hi Jordan,
 
I apologize for those entries, they are misleading and unclear. The intention is that that 
the player can use their Additional Standard Kit points to add additional weapons 
(one Basic and one Heavy) to be Favoured Weapon for the Regiment, giving the +10 to 
Logistics Tests, and allowing Specialities who gain access to the Regimental Favoured 
Weapons to select them at character creation. This clarification will be included in 
the first Errata document.

Basically, you get the standard 1xBasic Favoured Weapon and 1xHeavy Basic Weapon, but paying the 10/15 points allows you to select an additional Favoured Weapon, allowing you +10 to acquire that weapon, and the Weapon Specialist/Heavy Weapons guy gets to select that weapon as additional kit as per the specialty rules for those two choices.

~Yea, Tho I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil~

Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Deathwatch, Black Crusade + Only War Playtester

Star Wars: Edge of the Empire Playtester

I do not speak in any official capacity for FFG, all my posts are my own opinion, speculation, etc.

One of Three Founders of Dark Reign

Reply #14 | Published on 02 January 2013 - 15:58:19

MILLANDSON said:

I got a response from FFG, and it is what I'd originally thought:

Hi Jordan,
 
I apologize for those entries, they are misleading and unclear. The intention is that that 
the player can use their Additional Standard Kit points to add additional weapons 
(one Basic and one Heavy) to be Favoured Weapon for the Regiment, giving the +10 to 
Logistics Tests, and allowing Specialities who gain access to the Regimental Favoured 
Weapons to select them at character creation. This clarification will be included in 
the first Errata document.

Basically, you get the standard 1xBasic Favoured Weapon and 1xHeavy Basic Weapon, but paying the 10/15 points allows you to select an additional Favoured Weapon, allowing you +10 to acquire that weapon, and the Weapon Specialist/Heavy Weapons guy gets to select that weapon as additional kit as per the specialty rules for those two choices.

Thanks for keeping us updated. Glad to see we interpreted it correctly.

Reply #15 | Published on 02 January 2013 - 19:15:20

MILLANDSON said:

 

I got a response from FFG, and it is what I'd originally thought:

Hi Jordan,
 
I apologize for those entries, they are misleading and unclear. The intention is that that 
the player can use their Additional Standard Kit points to add additional weapons 
(one Basic and one Heavy) to be Favoured Weapon for the Regiment, giving the +10 to 
Logistics Tests, and allowing Specialities who gain access to the Regimental Favoured 
Weapons to select them at character creation. This clarification will be included in 
the first Errata document.

Basically, you get the standard 1xBasic Favoured Weapon and 1xHeavy Basic Weapon, but paying the 10/15 points allows you to select an additional Favoured Weapon, allowing you +10 to acquire that weapon, and the Weapon Specialist/Heavy Weapons guy gets to select that weapon as additional kit as per the specialty rules for those two choices.

 

 

Thanks for that. That's what I thought initially but id started to doubt. It seems steep but I guess if you have a squad full (or almost full) of weapon specialists (which would be a fairly standard) or heavy weapon guys the ability to pick from two could work out well.

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