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dark knowledge
Published on 24 May 2012 - 06:30:27
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Reply #16 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 06:00:04
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Dam said:

I had it initially in my Lore/Leadership deck, drop it on Denethor who never quests anyway, so the -1WP is irrelevant, then check to see the Shadow Effect to see if I need to block it or can I leave it undefended for Gloin to take damage and gain resources. Burning Brand caused me to drop it, although I could still see it on someone like Legolas who doesn't quest or maybe Eleanor who, if not needed this turn for her ability, is often the designated defender in my Spirit/Lore.

I'm currently playing MaO and there have been quite a few times when I've found myself wanting DK to see if I should block Wolves with an ally (if they have remove defender or 2 dmg to defender Shadow Effect), undefended or a hero. And to not Feint Rangers of Ithilien Enemy .

On a side note, after 8 plays, I'm 2-6 against Massing, same number of wins already (with the exact same decks) that I got vs Road to Rivendell in 10 plays…

Yes, Massing at Osgiliath has also got me to reconsider Dark Knowledge. I have exactly the same experience with the card, used to run it with Denethor and Gloin but never since because I dismissed the line-up.

Reply #17 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 12:07:59
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jjeagle said:

 

booored said:

 

 

jjeagle said:

The amusing situation is when he foresees his own immediate death in the form of The Necromancer's Reach or similar.

 

You should be tapping him after combat… this way he is protected form most character destruction treachery cards.

 

 

 

Good point. Does mean you lose a turn of using him though.

 

 

That's true, but it's worth it. Besides, sometimes you desperatly need Henny's extra ATT point to kill an enemy.

 

As for the cost-value isssue, we once had a discussion about this and me (and most of the others) came to the conclusion that Erebor Hammersmith deserves this price. He even gets better with each  Dwarrowdwelf adventure. For example he is very useful in TLD after a location test massacre.

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Reply #18 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 12:25:33

yes he's good, but on the downside he cant attack (not really relavent) or more importantly defend, which means he cant be used as a last resort sacrifice

Reply #19 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 12:38:19

richsabre said:

yes he's good, but on the downside he cant attack (not really relavent) or more importantly defend, which means he cant be used as a last resort sacrifice

You're thinking of the Record Keeper, Hammersmith (2 cost 1-1-3, take back attachment) is an all-rounder. I had him wielding a Dwarrowdelf Axe in my Dwarf deck, with Dain ready, he was excellent in taking out the Goblin Spearmen/Swordsmen in KD (attack 1, +1 for Dain, +1 for Axe and then 1 dmg after attacking, just enough to kill 2-def, 2-hp Enemy).

A dirty mind is its own reward.

Reply #20 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 12:47:08
Reply #21 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 14:07:21
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But Henamarth is super good for the Watcher. Choosing between Hammersmith and Henamarth, I would always give the award to the latter, Hammersmith is great for the price and I really like his combo with either Good Meal or Ancient Mathom but none (well almost) of the Silvan synergies being out and the Elf is already kicking butt. But… that said, Record Keeper is another great 1-cost ally.

Reply #22 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 15:23:01

Definately, can't see a Dwarf deck (with Dain, since well, who leaves him out?) without Record Keeper. With Bifur in tow, your not even struggling for Lore resources, effectively two per turn.

A dirty mind is its own reward.

Reply #23 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 15:25:38

Dam said:

Definately, can't see a Dwarf deck (with Dain, since well, who leaves him out?) without Record Keeper. With Bifur in tow, your not even struggling for Lore resources, effectively two per turn.

agreed…i would be pleased if we do see a dwarf hero that rivals dain, it feels rather forced to 'have' to include him….i say 'have' as you can field a dwarf deck without him, but it would double its power if it did have him

Reply #24 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 15:41:31

How about an Elf Hero that does even half to Elves of what Dain does to Dwarves? Not sure more great Dwarf heroes should be on the shortlist anytime soon. Although hopefully many more before hobbits show up .

A dirty mind is its own reward.

Reply #25 | Published on 27 May 2012 - 17:29:25

it should be either elrond, galadriel or celeborn…however as galadriel is the most high born and most powerful- then id say her

Reply #26 | Published on 28 May 2012 - 01:08:32

True and let's be honest, Celeborn is so whipped he can't even put on his clothes without Galadriel's express permission. Dude's housetrained to the max .

A dirty mind is its own reward.

Reply #27 | Published on 28 May 2012 - 02:24:11
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Dam said:

True and let's be honest, Celeborn is so whipped he can't even put on his clothes without Galadriel's express permission. Dude's housetrained to the max .

That's what some thousand years does to a man under the foot.

Reply #28 | Published on 28 May 2012 - 02:28:13
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How much I hope it is an Elf coming up this time, and two in a row would do fine as well. A Silvan is definitely on many people's wish list. Thranduil perhaps? Him being a king, he could possess an ability "somehow" rivalring Dáin's in the Silvan field and we could get a first ranged hero not being Tactics.

Reply #29 | Published on 10 June 2012 - 16:52:11

 I haven't read the whole thread so I apologise if this has already been mentioned but I've always found Dark Knowledge to be very effective when used on Dain in a Dwarf-heavy deck. He usually won't be used for questing anyway because of his effect so you will never miss the 1 willpower.

Reply #30 | Published on 13 July 2012 - 06:30:27

Ok…. thanks Guys.

This is interesting as I never considered using Dark Knowledge because of the -1 Willpower. But actually sticking it on someone who doesn't quest makes perfect sense.

Not sure why I didn't think of that!?!

If all else fails…. throw all your toys from the pram!

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