I have Ancient Monument in play can I win a force struggle with no characters on the table?

I can not find anything in the rules to say i can not.

Why not? At least this way, you force the DS player to commit something in order to wrest the balance away from you.

can we get some kind of conformation on this?

I was going to agree with MarthWMaster with no thought, but given one an re-reading the rules, they specify that for a Force struggle you need to count the force icons on characters, so now I doubt if the addition of the Ancient Monument and Jedi Training stands by itself or adds to your total only granted a character's force icons as a basis.

So… Help anyone?

I'm no expert, but from my point of view it would look like this:

1. Count force icons on characters (in this case: 0-0) AND modify the result using the modifiers (in this case: the monument adds 1 icon) and add them up. That gives us 1-0
2. Flip the token to the light side

If there were some characters, the modifiers would be added for sure, so why shouldn't it happen when there are 0 characters on the table?

I agree with Rozgutt's reasoning. I do think the rulebook should be better worded in this regard. Since LCG/CCGs can become very complex with card interactions, I don't envy whoever writes the rulebook, though, it must be like writing a legal document. Every single word and nuance counts.

Because in the rule book it states that units can only be committed to the force and are counted towards the force struggle, I would say no. Ancient Monument is an enhancement card looks to help your side in the struggle by adding 1 Force icon.

dbmeboy said:

Well, this seems like almost-pro opinion to me given the facts. I'll run with this, which is basically what I thought at the beginning, prior to give in into doubt (and grammar).

Thanks dbmeboy!