Alternately, I made up this list last night:

Wedge
-R2D2
-Proton Torpedoes
-Stealth Device

Arvel Crynyd
-Homing Missiles
-Stealth Device

Biggs
-R2F2

The theory being that while Han is tied up with Biggs, Wedge and Arvel shoot their missiles/torps. Wedge hurts han each time he attacks him. And Arvel can base Han and attack without Han shooting back. Han will go after the Xwings first, leaving Arvel to predict where han will go and get there first to block him and still get an attack off with 3 dice. i dunno, maybe it won't work. It's just another squad to add to my "wanna play" list…

I'm going to try the second YT-100 however I don't think the list has the fire power to keep swarms down.

Picasso said:

I didn't notice that ORS only has an attack of 2, in that case 2 x-wings are preffered.  The only other way would be to use Chewie to pilot which then would remove co-pilot from Han and cost a number of points netting higher pilot skill.

IF fielding 2 YT with 3 attack dice, the build is only weaker on attack(vs 2 x-wing) until you loose an x-wing.  Once you loose 1 X, then attack power leans in favor of 2 YT with gunners.

The flip side is 2 x-wings each have 2 agility dice vs YT's 1, giving them an edge in def.  Though a 3 attack dice YT does have 3 more hull/shield.

After looking at it, yeah I don't think 2 YTs is as strong, pretty much the only thing you could do is:

YT #1

Pilot: Han

Crew: Gunner

YT #2

Pilot: Chewie*

Crew: Gunner

This only leaves 2 pts left for any combo of 1/2 pt upgrades, or you can use Lando to pilot YT#2 with no addtional upgrades.  You then loose 2 addtional hull/shield by not having chewie as co-pilot etc.

Yes, it's much better with Chewie, greettings.

Wouldn't Backstabber's ability be useless against the Falcon?

RogueLieutenant said:

No, as his ability is dependent upon the front firing arc, very similar to the Ywing Ion Cannon. Although it is a little more useless on the Firespray, as the Firespray has both a front and rear firing arc. So backstabber has to be a side-stabber aganst a Firespray.

I think a squint over Backstabber might be the better tactic.  Who knows?

I have to think the old fasion tie swarm is the answer.

Picasso said:

Are you thinking a Howlrunner based 7 ship swarm, or a full on 8 ship swarm?  My concern is that the falcon might just be able to take out howlrunner early making you wish you had the extra tie.

My guess for a TIE swarm would either be the 8 TIE swarm or an "elite" 6 TIE swarm where you present 5-6 semi-credible threats like Howlrunner, Mithel, Backstabber, Dark Curse, Winged Gundark and Night Beast.

I tend to agree that if you have 1 named pilot, he'll probably be focused pretty quickly resulting in you just wishing you had the extra TIE.  Having 6 decent TIEs will mean you'll go ahead of the rookies though which might work.

Bear in mind I have played no games with wave 2 yet.

I'm thinking four academy pilots and three name pilots.  Mauler, Backstabber, Howler Runner?  Cause I honestly don't know which one to shoot first.

With crits stacking up on the Falcon, "Winged Gundark" might finally come into his own.

i think TIE swarms are now going to be 6 ships, with a mixture of Squints and Eyeballs. I just don't see the Wave 1 7-TIE swarms being nearly as effective now. Although, I dfo want to play my Worlds squad at some point, maybe _if_ I win one of the regionals, I'll go to another Regional with my Worlds list and see how I do. :)

I'm wondering (and hoping to find out in the next 3 days or so) how these might do:

They are variations on the same list

Krassis Trelix (36) + Heavy Laser Canon (7) = 43

Mauler Mithel (17)

Backstabber (16)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

The other options are:

Krassis Trelix (36) + Heavy Laser Canon (7) + Mercenary Co-Pilot (2) = 45

Mauler Mithel (17) + Veteran Instincts (1) = 18

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

and then the same list but taking off Instincts and putting on siesmic charges to get things that get too close.

@Right,

That was the list that almost beat me on Saturday.  The first one.

@Hothie,

I don't think the Swarm is shelved.  I think it is not as powerful as it once was but it is still a ligit list.