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Black Crusade
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Black Crusade insights
by Amaimon
Published on 01 June 2012 - 06:28:47
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Reply #16 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 11:24:07

 @K0balt - Well said! Give im' another beer. Don't worry, blood will be spilled, and all will die! By now I am realy pissed. 

Oh, and by the way I got some exciting news, that will ruin somebodys day. Sorry to eat your sweetroll guys. My question to FFG. 

I have a question about spending infamy points to re-roll Characteristics Tests. Does Skill Test are type of Characteristics Tests? eg. Can you re-roll failed dodge test?

Reply from Tim: 

 I'd say no, especially as page 36 has separate entries for Skill Tests and Characteristic Tests.

My kind of reasoning.

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Reply #17 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 12:40:16

Duly noted and ignored. Restricting rerolls to characteristic tests makes no sense at all and has never been the case for Fate Points in the prior systems.

Ceterum Censeo Dezmond Ignorandum Esse.

Reply #18 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 14:18:50
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If you can reroll attacks, you should be able to reroll evasions too.

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Reply #19 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 14:22:29
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Yeah, with Cifer there. Silly, nonsensical, completely biased in favor of combat and not in any way fun.

@K0balt - Since when are compacts about deals between NPC's and PC? My interpretation has always been that they're like Deathwatch Objectives. Goals that the characters set for themselves, and then follow through, and used as a mechanic for measuring the infamy one would earn from doing it in the first place, and lose from failing after setting out to do it.

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Reply #20 | Published on 07 June 2012 - 18:45:38

 You guys. I agree with you completely. This makes no sense at all, but this is RAW. You see that BC is not that perfect when compared to previosu systems. And that Infamy system is flawed. This clarification makes nurgle flaw, not that big at all. We'll se what changes they will make in Only War. 

About compacts. I think they are illogical, but maybe taking them away destroys ballance in the game. Maybe whole infamy thing was designed for using compacts, and small tweaks can completely inbalance the system. So far we are reluctant in using compacts. We had to use 4 compacts at one time, and we are happy with what we got now. When we get to Hand of Corruption we'll probably use it, but it's not like we will be bound to it. 

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Reply #21 | Published on 08 June 2012 - 04:18:47
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It's not actually RAW. It's rules as interpreted by FFG staff. The fact that you can send in the same question twice and get two conflicting answers depending on who answers proves that. Until it shows up in the Errata, it's a judgement call.

What's so Illogical about a compact? A group of heretics set a mutually beneficial goal and goes out and does it. All that stuff about secondary and personal objects are meant to be a mostly OOC guideline to help structure the game, channel the narrative and keep the group moving forwards towards their goal while rewarding them for their successes along the way. With personals adding a few plot twists and turns along the way, hopefully.

Also, 4 compacts at once? WHAT!? You have one at a time, that's the entire point! It's not supposed to be some sort of magically binding deal with every npc you run into. It's a largely meta structure for rewarding success with infamy. You don't make more than one at once, that's not how it's meant to work.
 

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Reply #22 | Published on 08 June 2012 - 06:28:47

 Also, 4 compacts at once? WHAT!? You have one at a time, that's the entire point! It's not supposed to be some sort of magically binding deal with every npc you run into. It's a largely meta structure for rewarding success with infamy. You don't make more than one at once, that's not how it's meant to work.

We've had a few compacts where secondary goals were large enough to be compacts in their own right which I felt was acceptable.

Ceterum Censeo Dezmond Ignorandum Esse.

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