http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruVlBv2s7yw

 poor rich                

muemakan said:

im not watching it….ever….

though you may as well tell me what it is now you have my curiosity…..

rich

 Tom Bombadil looks funny.

And I tried hard to find the scene in the books……the dwarves storming the troll fireplace with swords drawn to rescue Bilbo from the 3 Trolls…….  :-)

muemakan said:

well i watched it ……why exactly is bombadil in? im not making the connection….

richsabre said:

i assumed that was beorn…

 And I thought it was Radagast….

I thought I saw in a making-of clip that he was added in too.

ah yes- that was probably radagast then….i thought it a stretch even for jackson putting bombadil in (though i would have loved to see him in the trilogy)

Yeah guys, that is definitely Radagast. Awesome! Rich, I am sorry, had I known your aversion to the spoilers, I would not have posted it out of respect. ;)

I liked the trailer.

Don't hesitate to post because of Rich, he can simply 'not look'; and I believe he wouldn't be mad at you for posting more of those.

DurinIII said:

not at all- and my comment was only in jest, there is a bit of a on going joke that anything that breaks the lore in the film will have me pulling my hair out….when i said im never watching it i meant the films themselves, as i actually love spoilers for things.

so i dont mind at all, and even if i did it wouldnt be fair to the rest of the board, so post away

rich

Gotcha Rich. So, you really don't plan on seeing the films?

DurinIII said:

well, i guess it would be unrealistic to say ill never watch it on dvd in my entire life, however im certainly not going to the cinema to see it, i think (and this is totally my fault) that i shall be far too critical to enjoy it, though perhaps once the reviews and clips and so on is out and the hype has died down, i shall maybe sit down and give it a watch

…..its just those damn dwarves man…… haha

rich

The hobbit has always been, and will always be my favorite book. I've waited all my life for this film(s) to be made. That being said, I was sad when my all time favorite director (Del Toro) dropped the film. Anyhow, will this movie break cannon? Yes. Will it remove important plot points, dialogue, and scenes to add in extended over rendered special effects fight scenes? Yes. Will they remove content in favor of making up content that jackson, not tolkien, has written? The worst, but yes.

That being said, i approach these movies knowing its basically a Hobbit re-write fan fiction. Knowing that, I can allow myself to enjoy the films despite the qualms with them. I'll never understand the people who say "its rubbish, I'm not seeing it"… anything short of Tolkien directing the films himself are going to end up with the director putting their own spin on it, so what do you expect? Why ruin the whole experience for yourself rather than just enjoy what you can?

richsabre said:

I agree, those dwarves… And why couldn't they just give Thorin a long beard? Damn…

But on the other hand, I've come to like these movies, despite all the lore breaking and rewriting of the story. They are indeed inventing a lot of stuff, specially the things regarding the subplots that don't relate directly to the novel itself (they are basically interpreting the Appendices and mixing them with The Hobbit) but that's because the appendices and most of the info about that is so vague and simple that they have to invent dialogue, situations, scenes, etc. But it's not like the things they're adding are things that couldn't have happened (and it's no different than many of the stuff they "invent" for this game). I'm still looking forward to the films and will definately go to see them in cinemas. Plus, if you want the lore, you still got the book (and the rankin bass film to some extent). I am not so critical when relating it to the books, and want to enjoy the films as films alone (also because of the "cool" factor; I mean, they are made to be enjoyed, so I don't really care if they exaggerate some things).

these are all valid points, however the over riding factor here is i am purely not interested in a film being made of the hobbit- i never was, even after the trilogy films and all the talk on it, i just thought, nah- im not seeing it. ive seen what jackson's interpretation of middle earth is, it has alot bad points and being fair alot of very good points, however ive seen it and have moved on….

perhaps if someone else had done the film i would be more engaged with it, but being honest when i want to visit middle earth i have the real thing in my study….----warning cheesy comment ahead---- and afterall the imagination is the most powerful processor of all

rich