I think we still need some focus on Aragorn though. If not a new version, maybe an attachment that gives a global boost to the Dunedain? The ring of Barahir? If it also gave him the Tactics icon that would be great.

I can't wait to see some weaponry and armour other than for dwarves/elves. I think this will really be Tactics' moment to shine. Like they said in the preview, fighting will be just as important as willpower. I imagine something like you have to protect the front gates, if they get too much damage and are destroyed you get an additional encounter card per turn. Dynamics like this will change the focus of a lot of people's decks I think.

Also just a thought, but I guess Steward of Gondor with be even more of a powerful card now?

Narsil0420 said:

I think a few others have addressed this, but I'm not sure that everything after Core and SoM is still in that 17 year window. Obviously The Hobbit I is much earlier, but others have suggested that Dwarrowdelf and KD may also take place earlier.

John85 said:

yeah- i was under the impression that the 17 year time frame went out the window long ago

richsabre said:

so far, everything has been before the official trilogy; im not sure if that is part of the license, or just gives FFG greater freedom, but my guess is most/all releases (certainly in the near future) will continue to be so.

Dain Ironfoot said:

yes i agree there- i just dont think ffg has/will stick to such a small time slot as 17 yrs

rich

I think I have read it somewhere in one thread but I couldn't find now.

Great art in the about page of Heirs of Númenor, it should be Faramir don't you think? Surely we get him as a hero along Beregond .

BTW, I'm really excited by this deluxe expansion, and it's new cycle. I think this game is getting better and better .

Greetings.

Thorongil said:

Actually, since he was serving in the Gondorian Army under that name, I think a Tactics card would be appropriate.

Do not expect to see an Aragorn version under a different name, it would screw the "unique" thing.

lleimmoen said:

excellent point- had forgotten that

richsabre said:

they could always but something in the text box saying it counts as Aragorn if they wanted to make a "Strider" card or whatever (though, you'd really think the Lore version would be Strider).

Dain Ironfoot said:

i (along with a friend) call him that anyways- just fits

This is allso what I was thinking! Count as an Aragorn. There were some of these kinds of card in Decipher Star war ccg. Prises Leya was not allway Leya, buy name, but picture and card text make it sure that the Card count as Leya, for any game purpose.

richsabre said:

It would be foolish to do so. The game is called The Lord of the Rings after all. If they didn't do the novels and just keep on making sets about the time before the actual LOTR story, it would be as if they made a prologue and never showed the outcome of the story. All player cards have a shiny One Ring printed on their backs, and the role of the One Ring only becomes important during the LOTR novels. It would be kinda dumb not to do the story of the novels in its whole, and they can't be that dumb, can they?

I do like these little stories they're making up and the whole Middle-earth setting they're creating, but only if they're to create the tension and atmosphere before the main story takes off. The game won't start to feel complete to me until they begin with Frodo leaving Bag End. After all, they made The Hobbit, maybe as an experiment on making saga expansions based on novels. 

Gizlivadi said:

perhaps….i say perhaps as there is a problme in making the novels- mainly that we have encountered such places/foes that it would feel strange seeing them again and likewise  it would feel strange doing lotr and not seeing them

for example moria and the balrog….we've already seen it twice and been through moria twice, theres only so many ways you can do things like that without it getting stale

now, im not saying i dont want a saga lotr, however i am perfectly happy with the rpg style system of 'create your own adventure' ….in fact i like it as i can read the books if i want lotr, however we never see areas that we can potentially within the game system

for instance we never see anumminas, however on lotro we get to go there and see a certain representation of it….and its nice

rich

richsabre said:

And that's precisely why I don't want many different versions of characters/enemies, like so many people are eager to see. However, it would be stranger if they didn't do the novels, since the focus of the Lord of the Rings is the One Ring (so much that they put a picture of it behind every player card) it would be weird if we didn't get a card for it (besides Bilbo's Magic Ring, I mean a proper One Ring card), or if it never got any relevance in the game.