This is probably a ridiculous question but what exactly does "immune to player card effects" mean?

this is close:

"Immune to Card Effects
The location East-gate has the text, “Immune to card
effects.” This means that East-gate cannot be selected as
the target of any card effect, and it ignores the effect of any
card that would directly interact with it. The only way to
place progress tokens on it is by questing, and once Eastgate
is the active location it remains the active location
until it is fully explored (even cards like Dreadful Gap or
Strider’s Path would not be able to move it to the staging
area)."

Since an upcoming hero has the text "Immune to Player Card Effects" this means we cannot heal the hero, correct? Or play any other effect on the hero? Can the hero have weapons or armor?

 So then tell us more about this new Hero……

EDIT: just read it.

muemakan said:

didn't want to spoil anything, as it doesn't really relate to the question. check out the hobbit spoilers thread for more info. :)

Dain Ironfoot said:

As I read it, the answer to your questions would be "Correct.  No.  No."

Specifically, it mentions, "Cannot have attachments.  Immune to player card effects."

So unless there was some sort of ENCOUNTER card that allowed you to heal a hero (highly unlikely I would think… but possible- there have been locations that let you draw cards when explored, sooo….), then no healing is available for him.  And since off the top of my head all weapons/armor are currently attachments, then none of them are allowed either… But these are separate conditions.  Contrast this to the upcoming Bilbo hero that prevents gaining resources from player card effects, but has nor attachment restrictions.

benhanses said:

that really limits his effectives, but with that many hit points, he should have a drawback. :)

Dain Ironfoot said:

Yup, with his Sentinel keyword, 5  attack strength ( and 0 willpower), and "Does not exahust to defend" clause, it's pretty apparent what he's out there for…  defend then attack, defend then attack, defend… you get the idea.

Just to throw this out there. This Term was under the Rules & New Terms in the pamphlet book that comes with the game.

Immune to Player Card Effects

Cards with the text "Immune to player card effects" ignore the effects of all player cards. Additionally, cards that are immune to player card effects cannot be chosen as targets of player card effects.

benhanses said:

still 1 defense….im in the boat that think he's pretty useless (ok well not useless- he certainly an interesting character, just i limits his usefulness a real lot)

Beorn might be a good host, but isn't all that good on taking care of himself, being immune to Beorn's Hospitality .

Dam said:

it's an interesting effect to put on a card, but it doesnt really make any sense, flavour-wise. Can anyone work out a reason why a character would have it?

I can see some rules problems coming up…..

Is the text on Beorn still active if he is in the discard pile?

If he is still immune then you can't play Fortune or Fate on him or use Landroval, annoying but understandable. The problem is what happens when he ends up in your deck (Lost and Alone). Can the stargazer see him? Can Berevor or Gleowine draw him? Can Zigil miner discard him?

Most other card games rule that the card is just a card unless it is in play. That gets around a lot of these problems and would imply that you can play Fortune or Fate on Beorn.

Thoughts anyone?

Cunir said:

i dont particularly like it, but i guess you could say with him being his own master and as stubborn as a mule, no other cards would work on him (but as said before- even his own event!)

Memetix said:

well id say that he cant be brought back- im pretty sure of that at least

however as for stargazer im not sure….i mean you look at 5 cards and dont know he is there so that cant be helped, but tampering with him is after all an effect

Cinematically, the mechanic works well, I think. Beorn was very much a loner at  the time of the hobbit. A bit of a crazy old hermit. He didn't particularly work well with others, and didn't particularly want to. However, he hated orcs and wargs with a passion, and was willing to warm up some over the common enemy. However, as they were entering the woods, the dwarves started to give hint that they wanted to keep his poneys for the trek through mirkwood. Gandalf made it pretty clear that doing so would make an enemy of beorn. Even after they had befriended him, he was still mostly concerned with himself and his animals over the well being of the other free peoples.

It wasn't until later that he became something of a leader amongst the beornings.

Memetix said:

I would say his text will have no effect in discard pile or in the deck, both of which are in a "out of play state".  Card effects are effective only if the card is "in play", unless otherwise noted.  So I think he can be brought back by Fortune or Fate.  Just my 2 cents.