I guess it depends on how much Dust follows history. Italy was only a combat force when it was Axis, after the Allies gained control there was no longer an Italian fighting force. If Dust Tactics is set in 1945 and they follow closer to history then their might not be any Italian Walkers (or any left by 45).
I know WWII history I just didnt have the map with me and was guess that nazis owned all of europe. so since italy is allies they would just have ally walkers
I wouldn't be suprised if they were to release slightly different versions of some of the models for the japanese or italians. I think I read something about comonwealth troops turning up at some stage as a sub-faction of the allies.
Dust models does have their sPz. KpfL. III-A labelled as Ryu rather than Wotan, implying there is some difference between the two versions of the bot.
I wouldn't expect any of these sub-factions to come out any time soon though. I mean, we haven't even got much of a selection for the main factions out yet.
As for the sino-soviets, I would love to see them come out alongside the other armies, but if they were going to do that, I think we would have heard something by now, so unfortunately it looks like we'll be waiting a while for that.
I wasn't implying that anyone didn't know history, sorry if it came out that way. I was just thinking that if Dust follows history close (in regards to Italy) that there might not be any Italian walkers in the game at all. At least not when Tactics takes place. For all intents and purposes Italy would be "occupied" and thus only have US Walkers driven by US pilots.
As for Japan, The Ryu looks like a modified Fury of Ivan so yea, I would guess we will have 4 major types of walkers
US, with Allied Sub-Types
Russian with Japanese Sub-Types
German with Axis Sub-Types
I would like to see Different Walkers though. While I like the idea that you can have many variants on a given chassis, it looks cookie-cutter after a while. I know the Sherman tank had many variants including exclusively British ones they still had Heavy, Light, and Crusier tanks. Not to mention APCs and Armored Cars. An APC walker would be pretty cool. 4 legs maybe? Anti-Air walkers? Just some thoughts.
Actually, the ryu is a modified version of the axis walker "wotan", so the japanese would be a sub-type of the germans.
I'm not sure if the russians would have sub-types, but if they do, it would probably be chinese.
As for other sizes of walker, the dust models range has a smaller recon walker for the germans, called heinrich
And a heavier walker called gunther, also for the germans.
Although those are a different scale to the tactics miniatures, they might give some idea to the sorts of things tactics has coming.
I would have thought the recon walkers would come out in the third campaign expansion, Battle for Britain: operation seelowe as the rulebook mentions faster walkers for that expansion.
I stand corrected. I see now that the Fury of Ivan was captured mech.
As for the Lighter/Faster walkers coming out in the BoB expansion, that was what I was thinking. But if that was planned before FFG took the wheel, might it have changed?
Just to throw everything off track heres what I have found on the history of the Wotan .,Ryu and Fury of Ivan. The Wotan is The German Lord of the Battlefield able to hurl lightning bolts at all who oppose him. The Ryu is the Japanese lend lease variant with redesigned frontal armor purposefully designed for their inferior steel casting foundries. Slightly thinner than the Wotan but still quite thick. The Fury of Ivan walkers are the ones captured by a Mongolian special ops team who stole them as they were being delivered to the Japanese. The Ivans were instrumental in the recapture of Kiev in the winter of 1947. The reason the S.S.U. did not keep the lasers is because they did not have the ability to produce or maintain the advanced equipment. The one thing the Soviets are good at is making really BIG guns . . .with really BIG bullets, and they do make large holes in whatever they hit. I really like fluff.
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I wanna see the Yamato its a walker thats cannon is based off of the battleship. I'd like to know how they are gonna make the bigger walker if they are too. I figure they'll either take up more than 1 space or be for tabletop only which i like this skirmish style rather than table top for this game and I wonder if theyre going to add tanks to this game or just leave it to walker and allow ppl to buy 3rd party mech, which would be nice but I'd like to see rules for them be official. I can see the tanks being better sometime rather than the walkers in the historic aspect of the game. I saw someone using a Landkruezer for another game and thought that would be hilarious as a scenario where someone hijacks it and the axis and the allies have to fight the giant tank. Could just use a warhammer baneblade as the Ratte and kit bash a little for it.
I am building a Dragon Models 1/35 scale E-100 to use as terrain . Didn't even think about having it fight back .
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yea just make it neutral so one side doesnt get over powered or make just one side with another side trying to battle it.
I'm not bashing the expansion just disappointed that they arent making the expansion a whole box set like the initial game box. I'd like to buy it all at once rather than in pieces.
I am glad the next Expansion is NOT a $100 big box! I love what I have seen of the game so far, but I really want the game to grow to have all the models featured in the comics and models they make, without a new $100 box every 2 months!
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yea but i think that it woulda been cool for them to do it and release the individuals at the same time so you have an option.
I like the idea of the current expansion. I like that it is not 100.00's and comes with more tiles to help expand the table.
I really would like to see a Sino-Soviet box set come out to help expand the game. This is the only real flaw that I saw with this game was the limit of armies. I understand the want to hold back though and see if this game takes off before you as a company invest a ton of money into something that fails. I always feel a little aprehensive when investing in a brand new game, but there was something about this that cought my attention.
I believe the second expansion box will come with more minatures, like zombies and the gorillas.
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u so no each box doesnt have multiple mechs just one mech with the weapos to make varints
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