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6. AGoT Spoiler Space
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The identity of Coldhands
Published on 15 October 2011 - 06:38:53

I know that he's probably just a minor character to most.  But I'm intrigued by who this person is. 

If someone else beat me to it, let me know.  I'd like to read the discussion. 

 

Alright, so I think Coldhands is in fact Ben Stark.  He died, was brought back by the Children and was used by Brynden to hunt down Bran Stark and bring him north of the Wall.

 

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“They say it grows so cold up here in winter that a man’s laughter freezes in his throat and chokes him to death,” Ned said evenly. “Perhaps that is why the Starks have so little humor.”
 

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Reply #1 | Published on 15 October 2011 - 15:11:07

I think that's certainly the most popular theory. There's little doubt that he's a wight of some variety, somehow protected from mindlessness by the Children or his Stark blood perhaps. He's referred to as the ranger, he calls himself Bran's monster, and has some ties to the Night's Watch.

As to who else it could be, perhaps another member of the Night's Watch? I've heard Waymar Royce tossed around, but i don't put much stock in that.

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Reply #2 | Published on 04 November 2011 - 20:52:58

 The main reason I no longer believe that Coldhands is/was Benjen Stark is the fact that Bran never refers to him as such after meeting him. Bran was old enough to remember his uncle, so unless there is a dramatic change in his appearance, I just don't see it anymore.

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Reply #3 | Published on 27 February 2012 - 17:05:55

I don't always have the best attention/memory when reading, but doesn't Coldhands keep his face obscured?  I seem to remember reading it was wrapped.  That would prevent Bran from recognizing him.

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Reply #4 | Published on 28 February 2012 - 17:52:19
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KristoffStark said:

I don't always have the best attention/memory when reading, but doesn't Coldhands keep his face obscured?  I seem to remember reading it was wrapped.  That would prevent Bran from recognizing him.
Yes. Bran actually makes an observation that he has never seen "The Ranger's" face.

To me, the more interesting thing is the virtual confirmation that the Three-Eyed Crow is Bloodraven.

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Reply #5 | Published on 05 March 2012 - 10:13:01

ktom said:

KristoffStark said:

I don't always have the best attention/memory when reading, but doesn't Coldhands keep his face obscured?  I seem to remember reading it was wrapped.  That would prevent Bran from recognizing him.

Yes. Bran actually makes an observation that he has never seen "The Ranger's" face.

 

To me, the more interesting thing is the virtual confirmation that the Three-Eyed Crow is Bloodraven.

Which makes him, in my mind, a strong candidate for one of the three Heads of the Dragon.

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Reply #6 | Published on 06 March 2012 - 22:25:03
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KristoffStark said:

Which makes him, in my mind, a strong candidate for one of the three Heads of the Dragon.
Yeah, I can't go that far. The description of him physically - almost as much tree as anything else at this point - makes it hard for me to think he could ride a dragon. It's not like he's standing up and disengaging from the wierwoods any time soon.

In theory, he could "skinchange" a dragon, I suppose. But if one of the "3 Heads" is going to be a skinchanger, I'd lean toward Bran.

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Reply #7 | Published on 07 March 2012 - 12:12:58

ktom said:

KristoffStark said:

Which makes him, in my mind, a strong candidate for one of the three Heads of the Dragon.

Yeah, I can't go that far. The description of him physically - almost as much tree as anything else at this point - makes it hard for me to think he could ride a dragon. It's not like he's standing up and disengaging from the wierwoods any time soon.

 

In theory, he could "skinchange" a dragon, I suppose. But if one of the "3 Heads" is going to be a skinchanger, I'd lean toward Bran.

I'll admit I'm... well, not grasping at straws, but seizing ideas that present themselves.

Hmm, maybe I'll start a thread about this.

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Reply #8 | Published on 07 March 2012 - 19:01:27

 I don't think the three heads of the dragon will be resolved. Given Martin's previous work, its highly likely that Dany will die before she gets a chance to figure that out.

 

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Reply #9 | Published on 08 March 2012 - 11:09:24

bloodycelt said:

 I don't think the three heads of the dragon will be resolved. Given Martin's previous work, its highly likely that Dany will die before she gets a chance to figure that out.

 

I'm curious what previous work you're referring to.  If you're referring to how her last chapter in DWD ended, I think you're jumping to conclusions about what will follow that meeting.

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Reply #10 | Published on 08 March 2012 - 12:51:53

 Yeah I don't think any of the Dothraki will do anything to Daeny. They know that they'll all die for it.

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Reply #11 | Published on 04 May 2012 - 05:27:05

I assume you guys saw the Azor Ahai thread? Wouldn't it be badass if John, who already fulfilled two out of 4 of the Azor Ahai promises, brought back bloodraven after being "reborn" ? I mean we have the salt and rock, we have the bleeding star overhead, now all we need is him to be reborn and bring a dragon out of stone, Weirwood is…Kinda like stone? =P

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Reply #12 | Published on 22 March 2013 - 06:38:53
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