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2. AGoT Rules Discussion
2. AGoT Rules Discussion
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The Vaith timing question
Azrael1
Published on 08 January 2013 - 09:00:02
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Hi,

I have a timing question to "The Vaith": Response: After a player declares a challenge against you, kneel 1 influence to choose 1 character controlled by that player. That character loses an icon of your choice until the end of the phase.

If my opponent is declaring a challenge against me, can I remove an Icon from one of his characters before or after he declares and kneels the attackers for this challenge?

As far as I understood from the FAQ the second Framework action window of the challenge phase has two "Events" inside: 

 

1. active Player declares challenge type and opponent
2. active player kneels attacking characters
 
And for each event the steps  1-3 of the Framework Action Window is executed before the steps 4 - 6 are executed. If this is correct "The Vaith" would not allow me to remove an icon before my opponent is declaring his attackers.
Is this correct?
 
Greets
 
Tom
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Ratatoskr
Reply #1 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 07:19:48
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Azrael1 said:

Hi,

I have a timing question to "The Vaith": Response: After a player declares a challenge against you, kneel 1 influence to choose 1 character controlled by that player. That character loses an icon of your choice until the end of the phase.

If my opponent is declaring a challenge against me, can I remove an Icon from one of his characters before or after he declares and kneels the attackers for this challenge?

As far as I understood from the FAQ the second Framework action window of the challenge phase has two "Events" inside: 

 

1. active Player declares challenge type and opponent
2. active player kneels attacking characters
 
And for each event the steps  1-3 of the Framework Action Window is executed before the steps 4 - 6 are executed. If this is correct "The Vaith" would not allow me to remove an icon before my opponent is declaring his attackers.
Is this correct?
 
Greets
 
Tom

Entirely correct.

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Azrael1
Reply #2 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 07:37:15
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Ughhh ….   This was not the answer I was hoping to hear  :)

This means my opponent can attack with any character in his first challenge and I cannot prevent this with The Vaith  :(

 

So the card is not that usefull as I thought.

But good to know that I understood the rules correctly  :)

 

Greets 

Tom

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Reply #3 | Published on 08 January 2013 - 09:00:02
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Azrael1 said:

Ughhh ….   This was not the answer I was hoping to hear  :)

This means my opponent can attack with any character in his first challenge and I cannot prevent this with The Vaith  :(

 

So the card is not that usefull as I thought.

But good to know that I understood the rules correctly  :)

 

Greets 

Tom

Hehe.  At least you can mitigate the other challenge types they may initiate or the challenge types they can defend when it's your turn to attack.  :-)

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