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Battles of Westeros
Recreate the most significant battles from The War of the Five Kings
Moderator: FFG RobbFFGAntonffgjoshGeckoThe Spaniard Topics: 284 | Posts: 1212
Robb Starks ability to switch places
Published on 02 March 2012 - 13:47:00
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I do not have the cards at my hand ATM, but I know that some leaders (Robb Stark I think) have an ability I would like to clarify. This ability is to replace leader figure with flag bearer of an adjacent unit (prior to attack I think).


My question is based on this example:

- there is Robb stark figure with red banner on the field with no additional calvary figures

- next to this unit is full power (3 horse figures) green calvary unit with green flag, belonging to Stark side

- Robb uses his ability to switch places with adjacent flag bearer

My question is: Does Robb figure keep its red flag or gets green flag of adjacent unit and is now considered part of a green rank unit?

tnx

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Reply #1 | Published on 18 March 2012 - 13:11:40
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No one?

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Reply #2 | Published on 18 March 2012 - 23:52:58

I would suggest clarifying your question.  Is this Robb Stark's ability?  I can't remember it offhand.  Can you write the exact wording of the ability here on the forum?  That might help.

Also, FYI, you aren't supposed to ask rules questions on the forum.  At the top of the page, under Official Rulings ..., there is a link to an official form for rules questions.  In my experience, the designer of the game will answer very quickly during work hours.  If you do go that route, be sure to post the answer here.  Here's a link:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_faq.asp

Good luck.

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Reply #3 | Published on 19 March 2012 - 04:04:44
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Tnx I will do as you said.

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Reply #4 | Published on 18 May 2012 - 13:47:59

I asked the designer the question.  Here is the complete explanation of the King in the North's Abilities:

Robb Stark-King in the North
Can remove Engagement Token against Fearsome opponent.

His Commit Ability only allows him to change places with an adjacent friendly Cavalry banner bearer figure if at least one figure in Robb's Unit would be removed. Otherwise, according to the designer, this would break the rule that Commanders cannot take hits to trigger Abilities.

This means that Robb Stark's figure alone in his Unit may not utilize his Commit Ability. However, if Robb Stark has at least one figure in his Unit who will take damage (i.e. be removed from play), then he may switch places with any friendly adjacent Cavalry banner bearer, even one that is a different rank (Color) or another Cavalry Commander, or even a different type of Cavalry, and the new figure will determine hits for the original attack. This means that, if the attacker has rolled two red shields as hits and Robb changes places with a blue banner bearer, then those hits will no longer count.

Also, if Robb switches places with a banner bearer that is a Commander, then the new Commander of Robb's former Unit may use Abilities, such as Smalljon's Pursue 1 when counterattacking, in response to the current attack as if the attack had been rolled against the new banner bearer.

While a new Cavalry Commander would simply add Abilities to Robb's former Unit, as usual, Robb Stark-King in the North may switch places with banner bearers from different types of non-Commander friendly Cavalry Units. In that case, Abilities are determined by majority type, with the banner bearer figure breaking ties. So, if Robb switched with a Last Hearth Lancer and there was only one Winterfell Rider left in Robb's old Unit, then the whole Unit (consisting of a Winterfell Rider and a Last Hearth Lancer banner bearer) would behave as Last Hearth Lancers with the Abilities Wedge and Line Formations and Pursue 1.

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