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Vampire: The Eternal Struggle as a LCG?
Published on 20 March 2011 - 01:38:58

 If anyone has played this game based on the White Wolf world of darkness license which is now out of print, originally produced by Wizards, it seems like it would be a great fit for a living card game for it's multi-player appeal.

Here is the boardgamegeek entry for those unfamiliar with the original game:

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Reply #1 | Published on 26 March 2011 - 09:53:58

VTES was an ok game to start with, but mechanically it bogged down after WW released a few expansionsdied under it's own weight.

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Reply #2 | Published on 14 May 2011 - 12:34:06

 World of Darkness isn't really a big draw these days.

One does not simply warg into Hodor.

Reply #3 | Published on 17 May 2011 - 16:27:30

Would love to see this return as a LCG, great background, depth and scope.

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Reply #4 | Published on 28 May 2011 - 13:53:53

WoD is pretty much dead.

One does not simply warg into Hodor.

Reply #5 | Published on 06 July 2011 - 00:23:40

There were over 60 different people playing Vampire at Origins Game Fair in June.

Thursday's Last Chance Qualifier had 55 players.

Friday's North America Championship Day 1 had 47 players while 17 different people participated in the Shadow Twin #1 event happening at the same time.

Saturday's North America Championship Day 2 had 25 players (all those that qualified after Day 1) and the Shadow Twin #2 event happening at the same time saw 24 more players.

Sunday's First Chance Qualifier had 43 players.

Pretty good for a game no longer being supported.

I have read posts that tournaments in Europe have drawn over 100 players.

I'd love to see Vampire become a LCG. With no new material I don't know how long it will continue to hold my interest.

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Reply #6 | Published on 08 July 2011 - 17:13:02

A dream would be a vampire: dark ages variant with the basic vtes rules as an lcg. our playgroup would by anything available

… quoth the raven nevermore

Reply #7 | Published on 27 July 2011 - 18:56:20

I pray for this constantly. I had a strong love affair with WoD back in the day, though, for a variety of reasons I didn't jump on VTES until...... late July 2010  . I essentially got into the Game of Thrones LCG in order to soothe the sting.

Despite my desperate wishes, and with the caveat that I'm only really a dabbler in the whole CCG/LCG scene (the two previous games mentioned being my only real forays), I think that dude above has a point: the game seemed to suffer from hella bloat in it's latter days. Stuffing those into expansion packs at £10 a pop might be tricky.

Also... (oof, I'm on thin ice here) the art quality of VTES and other CCGs tend to be a LOT better than what I've seen of LCG cards so far (i.e CoC and AGoT). Are there any implications?

Nevertheless, I'd cry with joy if I ever see that VTES became an LCG. I really really really love that game.

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Reply #8 | Published on 11 August 2011 - 00:46:00

I never played V:TES, but I like the concept, especially the game's emphasis on the social element. My wallet would absolutely back "Vampire: The Rebirth," or whatever they decided to call it.

Would it use the WoD, or NWoD for the setting?

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Reply #9 | Published on 23 August 2011 - 16:30:50

I imagine it could only work as old World of Darkness if it wanted to maintain any form of backwards compatibility...

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Reply #10 | Published on 05 June 2012 - 08:40:13

The prpblem with Vampire may be that there was not any card limit to individual card. So 30 same card to the deck was just fine. But it is not impossible. I can live with 3 card limit just fine. The strong point is that there are not any other vampire themed games around. The Call of Cthulhu comes near.

Vampire is/was strong multiplayer game. But the problem maybe the theme. I like Vampire but many friends of mine newer were interested in vampyre themed game… Vampire does have strong followers, but it was newer very wide group. Hard to say how well it would managa in lcg format. There is potential though!

 

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Reply #11 | Published on 20 August 2012 - 16:46:30

 I used to like the vampire ccg but everyone in my meta used to love playing the rage ccg game instead.

If Ffg did decide to make a world of darkness lcg I'd hope they put their own spin on it and not copy the original games too closely, maybe vampires vs. werewolves vs. hunters.

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Reply #12 | Published on 21 August 2012 - 00:58:47

 I wouldn't count on this ever happening, not unless White Wolf gets dumped by the Eve Online guys and bought up by FFG.  White Wolf doesn't play well with others, which is why the Wizards CCG partnership didn't last.

Reply #13 | Published on 06 November 2012 - 19:46:33

 VtES was one of my favorite CCGs (and I played a lot). I'd love to see this game made into an LCG. The LCG format is much better than the CCG, and this was a fantastic multiplayer game.

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Reply #14 | Published on 26 December 2012 - 10:07:31

I'd be interested if they rebooted Vampire.  I imagine that like Netrunner it would be updated and some of the mechanics changed, also I expect they would want to include rules for 2p.  But if they did all that, I'm in.

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Reply #15 | Published on 07 January 2013 - 06:35:21

Mylo said:

Also… (oof, I'm on thin ice here) the art quality of VTES and other CCGs tend to be a LOT better than what I've seen of LCG cards so far (i.e CoC and AGoT). Are there any implications?

 

The new star wars games has some fantastic artwork and I think the warhammer art is pretty damn good in parts also.

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