Can anybody explain this to me? I approve of different restricted lists for the two formats but WTF? TftE restricted for Joust? Conclave restricted for Melee? Furies except Stag off the list for Melee? I don't get it.

Also, I really would've liked to see the whole "loses all keywords" mess addressed.

I quite like the Fury change. Makes for more dynamic melee. I'm on the fence about Stag remaining on the list. It does have the potential for the biggest swing in power and Bara doesn't really need any help when it comes to gaining power.

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ktom said:

Ah, that combo that the winner of that tourney in Spain employed. I had forgotten that. Still not sure about Conclave. Have they really had that much of an impact in Melee? Well, I don't really play Melee so I wouldn't know.

Ratatoskr said:

Which mess is that? Sorry, haven't been following the meta closely lately.

I'm surprised no one is mentioning that Melee will now officially be Swiss-paired.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=18&efcid=4&efidt=712917 

alpha5099 said:

They added "missing" traits, but still didnt correct the other errors like "Dohraki"
I definitely approve of power-claim events on the melee list, it'll really change things up.  Not sure I like Fury of the Stag being restricted but the rest of the Furies being playable; I acknowledge that it can be more game changing than the others, but it seems pretty unfair to Bara.  And BotS unrestricted for melee?  It was added to the list for a good reason…

 did they take it down or something their support page is blank right now..

Skowza said:

I'd like to thank whoever spearheaded the change in tie breaker rule. The old rule caused people with top notch SoS who didn't play anyone in the 4-2 bracket to miss the cut over people with low SoS that happened to beat one person in the 4-2 bracket, which seemed fundamentally wrong to me. I'm glad this has been changed and that people will be rewarded for better performances.

ktom said:

Yeah, I liked the TFTE change but this might be my favorite change of this round of FAQ/Tourney Rules.

Actually, I really like what they did with the separate restricted lists for Melee and Joust. The cards behave very differently in those two environments, so it's only logical that different cards are restricted.

Have to love the way they are trying to now use the restricted list to stop Melee from degenerating into a very short rush competition. That's what most of the restrictions there were aimed at, I think. Including the one on Fury of the Stag, which is a really easy way to obtain a huge chunk of power by stealing a power-laden character from Targ/Martell. None of the other Furies work as an accelerant, so it's logical that they are not restricted. 

Similarly I think that Conclave and TMP were restricted together to stop Conclave-Rush decks like the ones that dominated GenCon 2011? Those haven't really taken a hit by many of the previous restrictions/erratas, and can be pretty damn fast, since non-kneeling (We Light the Way, Game of Thrones,  renown characters are key in Melee.

I think the attempt at trying to slow down Melee and make it less Rush-y is best seen in the restrictions of Make an Example and Superior claim… coupled with the un-restrction of Burning on the Sands, which is a pretty brutal card in stopping another player from winning in Melee. That one speaks volumes.

Seems like FFG doesn't want Melee to be too fast. I like it. 

Threat from the East looks to be purely aimed at the deck that won in Spain. I guess FFG didn't like any deck that leaves your opponent with 1 card in hand at the beginning of the game to exist… this is probably related to wanting to keep KotHH viable? Since it was able to win in a field of ~80 players, it was probably pretty competitive to boot…

The added traits are probably to ensure that all character/location cards have at least *some* trait? Did a quick search through all the locations, I think everything else has one. Not sure if they missed any characters.

Just guessing though, naturally.

Yeah - agree with drakey here. I am a rush player at heart, but melee was pushing the envelope of late. too much non interaction - dropping a whole chain of events to basically put power on cards off of one challenge. Just getting a hair too fast to be fun. Thsi should reign it in nciely

And Fury of the Stag HAS to stay restricted in melee. its an auto inculde otherwise and probably way too swingy in the format. barathon does NOT need the help in the high target environment.

Good FAQ. Feels like the game is (mostly) ina pretty good spot rigth now. still don't think the maester thing si working, but "whatever" at this point.

Stag Lord said: