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Apparantly a Hybrid between an RPG and a board game? AS per this
Published on 14 August 2009 - 03:37:56
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Reply #16 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 10:56:08

Enough with all these old fashioned rulebooks. This game is going to put on the self DnD and all preevious RPGs for ever. I love it. I want it!

 
Reply #17 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 11:10:55
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MagnusSeter said:

 

Foolishboy said:

 

I struggling to think of a less credible group of people than those that have been allowed to test the game.

 

 

That's really funny. Maybe that's not your intention, but what I am reading from your post is, paraphrased ...

"We can't trust anyone who knows anything about the game."

So who should we trust? Those who haven't seen the game at all, which is like everyone but the people involved in the game design and testing?

/M

 

 

As I said in my previous post, the reviews I want are independant ones written by people with nothing to gain from the game's succes or failure. I was hoping for some fans to get go at GenCon and write some reviews based on actually playing the game.

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Reply #18 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 11:36:15
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Foolishboy said:

 

MagnusSeter said:

 

As I said in my previous post, the reviews I want are independant ones written by people with nothing to gain from the game's succes or failure. I was hoping for some fans to get go at GenCon and write some reviews based on actually playing the game.

 



LOL Fans going to gencon....and revealing what they saw...LOL good luck with that buddy. For a time I always thought hobos seeking shelter were the only ones that went to these things. Gen con for some dang reason is always held on the first week of school. So that cuts most college students out, well the ones that care about education and a future (the ones called nerds aka board game geeks). 

The times that I went to Gamesday Baltimore I saw so many cool things but signs were all around them saying "TAKING PICTURES NOT PERMITED" and had mean men standing next to the signs. 

Just as movies do their best not to get leaks, so to does the board game industry. After all those that get to see upcoming products and hear the news did pay to get that privilage. This is why most that go don't leak, because they paid and you did not.

 

Pull from the subconscious and never give up on your dreams.

 

Reply #19 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 11:58:56
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darkkami said:

 

Foolishboy said:

 

MagnusSeter said:

 

As I said in my previous post, the reviews I want are independant ones written by people with nothing to gain from the game's succes or failure. I was hoping for some fans to get go at GenCon and write some reviews based on actually playing the game.

 



LOL Fans going to gencon....and revealing what they saw...LOL good luck with that buddy. For a time I always thought hobos seeking shelter were the only ones that went to these things. Gen con for some dang reason is always held on the first week of school. So that cuts most college students out, well the ones that care about education and a future (the ones called nerds aka board game geeks). 

The times that I went to Gamesday Baltimore I saw so many cool things but signs were all around them saying "TAKING PICTURES NOT PERMITED" and had mean men standing next to the signs. 

Just as movies do their best not to get leaks, so to does the board game industry. After all those that get to see upcoming products and hear the news did pay to get that privilage. This is why most that go don't leak, because they paid and you did not.

 

 

 

Yeah running Demos of a game to get word of mouth advertising and positive reviews going is such a stupid idea.  Especially at one of the biggest Gaming Conventions in the World.  The last thing a company wants is you going out and telling others that they have a good game.  Heck people might even buy the game! 

A better idea is to lie to you customers about a game you are not really making then introduce a completely new different game to replace a successful one with an established fan base, which you give a corporate buzz word announcement of and keep back any real information.  Then have to explain that it is not what the announcement makes it look like but still give no real information.  Oh yeah it cost $100 and is not complete, if you have more than 4 people in your group or want the the other 10 careers (out of 50) you have to buy addons right away.  How much will this addon cost and do we need an addon for each player or will one addon support multiple players, that must not be infor we need.  Yep, Much better way to market a game.

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Reply #20 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 15:15:44

Foolishboy said:

I was hoping for some fans to get go at GenCon and write some reviews based on actually playing the game.

That would have been preferrable. I think it was announced at GenCon because GenCon rolled in, not because it is ready for public consumption. Still, I hope for more info, and am willing to wait until FFG gets back from GenCon.

But compared to the WH40kRP line, they sure are letting us WFRP:ers hang.

/M

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Reply #21 | Published on 15 August 2009 - 21:12:02

Foolishboy said:

  • Graham McNeill: Games Workshop writer/designer. A man who works for the owner of the Warhammer brand.

That's actually incorrect. Graham McNeill was a member of GW's design team (initially a staff writer, then a games developer), but left GW and moved on to writing novels and short stories for Black Library on a full-time freelance basis in 2006.

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Reply #22 | Published on 16 August 2009 - 00:06:38
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Kriegtanzer said:


Yeah running Demos of a game to get word of mouth advertising and positive reviews going is such a stupid idea.  Especially at one of the biggest Gaming Conventions in the World.  The last thing a company wants is you going out and telling others that they have a good game.  Heck people might even buy the game! 

A better idea is to lie to you customers about a game you are not really making then introduce a completely new different game to replace a successful one with an established fan base, which you give a corporate buzz word announcement of and keep back any real information.  Then have to explain that it is not what the announcement makes it look like but still give no real information.  Oh yeah it cost $100 and is not complete, if you have more than 4 people in your group or want the the other 10 careers (out of 50) you have to buy addons right away.  How much will this addon cost and do we need an addon for each player or will one addon support multiple players, that must not be infor we need.  Yep, Much better way to market a game.



Man I was totally being sarcastic you took that way to seriously. Th ePart about "no pictures" is true and also the people paying and not sharing to non payers is true also. Take for instance this new Pathfinder, it still isnt up on demonoid or other famous torrent sites, even tho its sold as a 10 buck pdf file on paizos site. Fans will stay loyal unless they are in it for the fame. That was all I was implying. 

Pull from the subconscious and never give up on your dreams.

 

Reply #23 | Published on 16 August 2009 - 01:31:05
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I wasn't sure about your comments, whether you were serious or not, never been to the Con you mentioned but it kicked off my sarcastic streak.  It really may be a great game but they seem to do all they can to make the fans wonder what the heck it is going to be.   

I joked on one of the threads that all they have told us is that it is "new and shiny."  Then I watch the Gen Con videos and the CEO of FFG called it "new" and "shiny"...and controversial.  Thanks for clearing things up.  Jay Little tells us it is not a board game, it has dice and cards and character sheets and career cards but there is NO board and NO map, and no pencils....  Glad I already have maps of the Old World then...and a pencil.  

(And no I wouldn't expect it to come with pencils, but Jay mentioned it at least twice so if must have been important, it was more time than he spent on explaining how all these wonderful do dads we have to buy are going to work to make it a better role playing experience.)

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Reply #24 | Published on 16 August 2009 - 02:17:33

If it doesn't come with pencils, it's not a complete game!

For $100 it should come with 4 pencils!

No pencils? What have they done to my RPG?!

Pencils? I thought everything would be on cards!

Somebody help me out here. I'm running out of good ones.

Reply #25 | Published on 16 August 2009 - 02:30:15
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N0-1_H3r3 said:

Foolishboy said:

 

  • Graham McNeill: Games Workshop writer/designer. A man who works for the owner of the Warhammer brand.

 

 

That's actually incorrect. Graham McNeill was a member of GW's design team (initially a staff writer, then a games developer), but left GW and moved on to writing novels and short stories for Black Library on a full-time freelance basis in 2006.

Thanks for the correction, however I do not believe it changes the relevant point, namely that Graham McNeill will not knock a Warhammer product.

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Reply #26 | Published on 16 August 2009 - 03:37:55

Just to repeat what Skinny Dragon said, please read carefully (bold and italics to help).

 

GreyLord said:

. It felt like a strange hybrid of board game and roleplaying game at first, but once the notions of the new mechanics took hold, it felt very natural.

 

He's saying that when he opened the box and saw the contents, he had the same response many other people have had a first glance.

 

but

 

Then he played it and discovered this was not the case.

 

I don't see why people find this hard to grasp.

 

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