Hi Rogue Trader fans!

I just uploaded an extensive designer diary about Ship Roles and how they work in Rogue Trader! It's a sneak peek at some of the cool ways your characters can interact with your starship(s) in the game, so go check it out!

Excellent.  I was expecting something like this to be included in the game as it gives everyone a place on a starship and something to do doing starship combat so no one in the group is left out.  It's nice to see that confirmed on the page and it's another sign that the finished game will be as good as we are hoping.  Thank you.

The designer diary is great! That's what I've been looking forward to: few space RPGs have captured the responsibilities of being a crewman as opposed to just shooting people while in the landing party. Extended actions seem to be a great idea too.

I'm looking into the grim darkness with hope, FFG has certainly matched, or even outdone Black Industries when it comes to 40k RPG.

One minor nitpick though. While the new (I presume)artwork is great, why does the Starhawk bomber pictured have air intakes? Cause you know, there isn't much air in the vacuum.

Idaan said:

My guess would be that they use different propulsion systems in atmosphere and vacume.  The intakes would be for atmospheric flight.  Also, they look cool.

I'm really excited for Rogue Trader.  It's looking better everytime we get a designer diary.

 That's also not a Starhawk.

Great diary Ross, thanks for the input.

My questions about Roles are:

1) Do they advance like a characters career, with more options opening up as you advance in the Role, or are they static, and never progress?

2) If they do advance, do they use experience to advance, or do they use a different pool of points to advance the Role?

3) If they do use experience, do you plan on the experience spent on Roles to contribute to the tier cap of the character's advancement?

My concern is that in Dark Heresy, if you follow the rules as written, experience is already a tight commodity, that every time spent contributes to taking another step to the eventual retirement of your character due to hitting top tier.  Also, with the rules as written experience is a slow, slow process, with calculations of taking over two years to reach top tier.

So if we spend experience in roles to progress them, and it contributes to the amount of points spent to get to top tier, in two ways we're weakening our characters on the ground.

First, it gets weaker because it doesn't have access to skills that it could have accessed due to the role, because it hits top tier due to roles.

Second, it gets weaker because the small amount of experience it does get, moves towards roles.

I think Roles are a great way to expand the character, making it more believable, and filling in gaps when on the ship.

My concern is that with how Dark Heresy is written, where every single experience point spent contributes to the end of the character, and how rare experience already is, that by adding yet another experience point sink to the character, our characters have to decide whether to ignore roles, or ignore class, and that each decision will adversely effect the other.

Roles, being optional, do not cost XP.

The Roles in the Core Rulebook are presented as positions of authority on the ship, and, in a way, are static. However, in another way, they aren't: your ship grows and changes over the course of a Rogue Trader campaign, and thus, your Role also changes. The Roles are dynamic in that they are tied to the group's ship. A character is not necessarily chained to any specific Role (with some minor exceptions as stated in the diary), so one character could be the Master of Whispers on one vessel and become the Ship's Confessor aboard another, for example.

 Wow cool! Are those all the roles that's going to be in the rulebook, and is there room for ambitious GMs to make up more? 

The diary only shows a few of the Roles that are in the book, I selected a handful of the available Roles as a teaser. 

Thanks again Ross!  I'm really exceited about Rogue Trader, and can't wait to play it.

Will there be any marine (i mean Navy armsman) career/role in the game?

Not sure if anyone is aware of [i]GURPS 3e Compendium II[/i], but it included a system that was very similar to the one being "presented" here.  Or, at least, it sounds very familiar, but I'm sure that FFG has some surprises under their belt.  Anyway, this wasn't meant as a criticism or accusation of anything more nefarious, merely a statement that this is a rather interesting way of doing things, and at least in my experience it works well in encompassing the range of ship activity.  Cool.

Kage

Im sorry, what is so innovative about this system? As far as I see these roles so far, all it is is an individual "extended" action that is permitted to only one person at a time, but each character can take the role just by saying "this week Im Churigeon! Last week I was Confessor!"

Im not saying it is a bad rule or a stupid system or that is doesnt work or add flavor, Im just saying it doesnt sound all that Innovative.

Im getting the game, Im going to play the game, and chances are Im going to love the game, but this isnt selling it for me.

As above, there's nothing particularly innovative about it, but it does work.  It's very "space opera," but that seems to be in keeping with Dark Heresy and even the current interpretation of the 40k universe as published by GW.

Kage

Ross,

My big question is will there be alternate advancement available based on the Role you select?  The problem is you could end up with people that have to play a role they aren't really appropriate for because the other roles they are more fit for are already taken.  If there is an alternate career advancement based on the Role, that would allow the character to fill in the gaps they need to cover in order to better fill that role.

Just my first thought after reading the diary.

@Peacekeeper

The "innovative" part for me is that everyone has something to do during combat. In a few other Sci-Fi RPGs, ship-to-ship combat (especially capital ship) essentially was the time where the pilot and gunner players duked it out with the GM while the others prepared the evening's pizza. In a lesser way, many games with specialist characters have these kinds of moments - when the power armoured Battle Sister and the carapace-and-heavy-bolter using guardsman duke it out with the Patriarch, it's generally in the adept's best interest to stay out of harm's way.